Alcohol Drinking
Alcohol Drinking
T-Bone said:
JKsSyclone said:
So....what needs to happen for there to be 108 trucks there again next year?
This will probably spark some hate, BUT there should be less drinking and more group activities, especially if you want to attract or draw back the 30-55 age group, which is probably the range in which most of these trucks belong. I won't delve any further into that but rather, leave it to you commitee members to digest.
You may not want to delve into it any further, but I will. As far as I'm concerned, you can count 2 less attendees and 1 less SYCLONE next year.
There seems to be confusion why the attendance grows less and why the vendors and other big names dont show up. I may have some idea why. Take a look at this post:
0966Sy said:
And we all cant forget the Austin Legend's speech. Anyone remember this quote. "I skull F*c^ed that Bi^%h" as two normal guests of the doubletree where walking past our circle to go check in to their 4star hotel. Little did they know they would get welcomed by drunk Texans and alcoholism woofal ball and a pocket bike sitting next to the piano in the hotel lobby. Haha now thats some funny memories.
Yeah, that is pretty funny. Do you wanna know who those "two normal guests" were? Would you like to take a guess?
It was me and my relatively new girlfriend, checking into the Doubletree. I was embarrassed that we had to walk through an unruly crowd of drunks, and that she had to listen to language like that. Her first encounter with "SyTy members" made her quite uncomfortable. Furthermore I was ashamed to admit I was even associated with this group. This "family event" was about as family-friendly as a college frat party. The reason you probably didn't think we were SyTyers is because it seems we WERE the only two "normal guests" in the area. Getting harassed by a couple of incredibly piss-drunk goons is not our idea of a good time. And it surely doesn't have much to do with Syclones or Typhoons.
I have taken my truck to the Nationals since 2002 and this year, parts failure prevented bringing a truck this year, but I still made the drive. My truck would run 11s if I brought it. I saw one (awesome) truck of Dennys running 10.50s. The next fastest pass I witnessed was 12.30 and probably 40-50% of the runs were in the 14 second range. I interpret ALL of this as meaning that very few SyTyers are anywhere as serious as I am about RACING. I thought the "Nationals" term is copied from any other "Nationals" like NHRA Nationals or World Street Nationals, meaning --- the ultimate RACE of the year. Evidently the SyTy Nationals is really just the ultimate PARTY of the year , and the racing is nothing but a mundane detail that matters oh so little to the majority of attendants.
I would see stronger racing interest and stronger competition at my local drag strip. I enjoyed the SOBER people I did talk to and I enjoyed watching the competitions and Denny's truck. But the harassment really started us off on the wrong foot and the lack of serious competition didn't help either. My truck is far from a 10 second ride and if I brought it I would feel a little funny being the "2nd fastest" truck there. In 2004 I ran something like a 12.20 or 12.30 in the test and tune and that was the 2nd fastest pass of the event as well (Hoovers were 1st about 2 seconds faster).
subiegrl said:
NOJIMMY....dude, you do this every year....
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthre...33&page=2&pp=15 ,
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19738maybe ,
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthre...70&page=2&pp=15 you should try coming to the event so that your input has context, I haven't seen your truck there since what 2001?
OWNED!!!! NOJIMMY, I have read your posts and I started getting suspicious as to whether or not you attended and now Subiegrl confirms it. That is too laughable. You didn't even attend but you have pages of suggestions on how to run it and how to get more people? Oh, the irony is overwhelming. That notwithstanding, you mentioned a bunch of big names/fast trucks and asked what it will take to get them to show up for the "biggest baddest SyTy event". Well guess what - the SyTy Nationals *IS* the biggest and baddest event and none of these people chose to show up. It's not anyone's job to "BEG" or "pay" them to show up, either they are serious about SyTy or they AREN'T. Plus, a bunch of the names you mentioned I recognized as owners whos trucks have either never gone fast or never RAN in the first place?? Don't you think a FINISHED TRUCK would be a first prerequisite to bringing it to a Nationals race? Let's hope their absence from nationals was only because they were so focused on completing their trucks that have been 4-7 years in the making.
This group harassed me a lot when I joined, I got past that part and everyone warmed up, only for me to see them move onto other newbies to harass them and in the past months I have lurked and observed this behavior as evident as ever. I feel the group in general has become more juvenile and LESS and LESS serious about working hard to go as fast as possible. You wonder why the "Old Guard" members don't post and contribute anymore, I know why. Because there is such an incredibly HIGH "signal to NOISE ratio" on this board that it is almost useless to try and find worthwhile posts anymore. When was the last time someone set significant new times or someone had fresh new ideas or serious motivation to finish a big project? I have seen Phillip Long's truck break amazing new ground and Servando exhibit unbeleivable motivation restoring his truck, and the trucks in the 9s are working hard (although they are not sharing much technical information for others to benefit/learn from). But not much else. (I admit I barely read the board at all).
I haven't posted here in about 1 or 2 years. But I still want to be as involved in SyTy.net as ever and I am still as deeply involved in my own truck as ever. But I find more motivation and more useful information elsewhere with much less hassle and crap and juvenile gay-homo jokes to sift through.
Do you remember when, every time I finished a project, I would make a huge technical writeup sharing truckloads of detailed information on my analysis and results, with hopes it may save fellow SyTyers money, wasted time, effort, and agony? I now have more information to post than ever, but I get the feeling I would be just talking to myself and the crickets chirping.
So anyways, enough of my rant. This year's Nationals pissed me off and left a bitter taste in my mouth so take my rant keeping that in mind. If I was a big name or a vendor I would not want to attend this NATIONAL DRUNK FEST either and I would be embarrased to bring my kids and/or wife.
Josh Straub
Syclone#0044