Need to identify a multi-stage paint (candy red?)

[no_ty_yet]

My Ty currently has a multi-stage paintjob on it, I'd call it a "candy red" or something along those lines. The problem is, I need to match this color to do a partial repaint. I don't know the name of the color, the brand of paint that was used, or the body shop that did it.

Here's what I do know -- it appears to be a multi-stage paint, probably a three part system. First is a silver base coat (metallic, I believe) then a red-tinted clear, then (I think) a final clear. I checked with the paint guy at my local O'Reilly's store to see if their computerized color matching machine would have any hope of matching a multi-stage paint, and he said no.

I don't know where to start, other than to start looking at color chips from Dupont, PPG, House of Kolor, Sherwin-Williams, and anyone else that sells mutli-stage specialty paints. Any ideas???

Here's a picture of it:
http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/88433/0.jpg

Thanks,
Galen

 

[myclone]

Ugh.. That color is gonna be tough as hell to match and it will take one heckava painter to get it right.

That being said right when I got out of the body shop business Akzo Nobel (commonly known as Sikkens) had a digital immaging/color matching system. I dont know if they still have it or not but it was the latest and greatest a few years ago and only high end shops could afford it. It was demo'ed at our shop and seemed to work pretty good. Basically you put this apparatus on the panel to be matched, it took a digi "photo", and then spit out the formula for mixing the tints to match.

Like I said I dunno if that system is still around but you might check with some high end shops (shops that only repair high $ cars) to see if they can match it. Going to the local body shop supply place with the gas door lid and letting them try to match it will prolly get you close but not exact.

Hope some of that helps.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Ugh.. That color is gonna be tough as hell to match and it will take one heckava painter to get it right.

my thoughts exactly. I would say your better off with a complete repaint, you'll probably be happier in the end.

 

[JKsSyclone]

I believe all major brands have some kind of digital scanner that can get you a formula that is close to what is on it but i doubt youll ever get it to match. You would have to have a painter that not only is good but verrrry lucky. The problem with repainting candy or multi-stage colors is that first you have to match the base color, then you have to match the candy color, then you have to apply exactly the same amount of the candy color as the first painter did. If the base color is just a little off the final color will be wayyyyy off. If you use more of the red candy color it will get alot darker, if you use too little it will look pink.

I would just repaint the truck totally...youll never be happy with the way it looks if you dont. If you like the look of the candy paint that is on it i would use a factory color so you can match it later if you have to. Ford had a tri-stage color like that called Lazer Red Met. that would be perfect. It looks alot like the red that is on your ty.

Good luck!

 

[no_ty_yet]

Thanks for the input so far guys. My original plan was to do a complete repaint, but in the interest of getting it on the road sooner and saving some bucks, I thought I may be able to just do a partial repaint *IF* I could ever match the color. If I go this route, I'm planning to use some sort of gunmetal gray color on the cladding.

If I go with a total repaint, I'm thinking about a deep purple, but I'm not sure yet. My wife already ruled blue out -- I think she figures that our blue Chevelle and blue truck are enough blue. Go figure!

Galen

 

[1BADSUV]

Thanks for the input so far guys. My original plan was to do a complete repaint, but in the interest of getting it on the road sooner and saving some bucks, I thought I may be able to just do a partial repaint *IF* I could ever match the color. If I go this route, I'm planning to use some sort of gunmetal gray color on the cladding.

If I go with a total repaint, I'm thinking about a deep purple, but I'm not sure yet. My wife already ruled blue out -- I think she figures that our blue Chevelle and blue truck are enough blue. Go figure!

Galen

Hi,

Here is a number for a bodyshop that I used when I lived in KC. They do very good work might be able to help you with your problem.

The company is BF BODYWORKS INC., 913-764-8555 and ask for Brian.

They were able to do bodywork and fix peeling clear-coat for me with out painting the whole panel and it came out perfect. They have a very expensive paint matching system and should be able to help you with your problem. Tell Brian I gave you his number.

Cheer's
Joel Ackerson

 

[jetdrvr]

paint

paint

go to a paint supply that handles HOK (house of kolor) They will have a color chart that shows all the different kandys over different bases. do this out in the sun. If you are sure that the base is silver, I'm going to guess that its apple red over orion silver (body) and the cladding has meteor maroon base (apple red kandy on top) also could be burgandy kandy over silver (if they used just one color base) at least thats what the colors look like on my monitor. I've been using hok for years and its by far the most common candy used.

 

[tygraine]

3 stage red

3 stage red

silver bases are not common on factory colors, ford, gm, chrysler use pinkish and coppery mettalic bases. house of kolors is your best bet. it takes a painter like myself to get it right, and it's no easy task. all the adjacent panels must be blended, and many test panels to be sprayed ahead of time. good luck!!

Dan D.
92 TY 1605

 

[no_ty_yet]

Thanks for the info, guys. I think I'm going to take the advice of the masses and have the whole vehicle repainted (different color, probably black).

Galen