6l60e

Robert Lone

MUTANT
Re: 6l60e

Captain Morgan said:
yeah, its just infortunate you have to sacrafice boost launching, performance, increase turbo lag and increased wear and tear on parts just to get it :tdown:


...ouch...

I'm scurrying back under my rock now.... :oops:
 

'JustDreamin'

Dream: 6LV8 Turbo Bravada
Re: 6l60e

Captain Morgan said:
It seems that the 4L70E offers the best weight advantage and a final drive ratio that is better than the 4L80E.

But you do know what the 4L70E is, right?

Its another gussied up version of the 700R4. Its the most current derivative, newer and slightly stronger than the 4L65E.


And the .67 overdrive on the 6L80E isn't all that bad. Especially when you combine it with the 4.02 1st gear ratio. Its got alot of gear in first, which means you don't need the gear in the rear axle. Meaning 3.08's coupled with the 6L80E (4.02 ratio which means a combined ratio of 12.38:1) is probably about the same as running 4.11's with the 4L60E (4.11 x 3.059 = 12.57:1 overall). Just a matter of mixing and matching parts and pieces to come up with the best combination (and making sure the tcase & driveshafts can take the beating).

'JustDreamin'
 

Captain Morgan

Moderated User
Re: 6l60e

JustDreamin said:
But you do know what the 4L70E is, right?

Its another gussied up version of the 700R4. Its the most current derivative, newer and slightly stronger than the 4L65E.


And the .67 overdrive on the 6L80E isn't all that bad. Especially when you combine it with the 4.02 1st gear ratio. Its got alot of gear in first, which means you don't need the gear in the rear axle. Meaning 3.08's coupled with the 6L80E (4.02 ratio which means a combined ratio of 12.38:1) is probably about the same as running 4.11's with the 4L60E (4.11 x 3.059 = 12.57:1 overall). Just a matter of mixing and matching parts and pieces to come up with the best combination (and making sure the tcase & driveshafts can take the beating).

'JustDreamin'
no its not :roll:

the 4L70E is a TH350 with overdrive, just like the 4L80E is a TH400 with overdrive.

but thanks for trying.
 
Re: 6l60e

Info supplied by GM

Backing the 6.0L V-8 is a new Hydra-Matic 4L70-E electronically controlled four-speed automatic transmission. It debuts in the TrailBlazer SS and was developed to handle the high horsepower and high torque loads of performance-oriented light-duty vehicles. Special high-strength and heat-treated materials are used throughout the 4L70-E to ensure it delivers smooth, dependable shifting.

Gear ratios :)1):
First: 3.06
Second: 1.62
Third: 1.00
Fourth: 0.69
Reverse: 2.29

Funny that it has the same ratios as the 700R4/4L60E

but thanks for trying.
 

Captain Morgan

Moderated User
Re: 6l60e

midnightbluS10 said:
Info supplied by GM

Backing the 6.0L V-8 is a new Hydra-Matic 4L70-E electronically controlled four-speed automatic transmission. It debuts in the TrailBlazer SS and was developed to handle the high horsepower and high torque loads of performance-oriented light-duty vehicles. Special high-strength and heat-treated materials are used throughout the 4L70-E to ensure it delivers smooth, dependable shifting.

Gear ratios :)1):
First: 3.06
Second: 1.62
Third: 1.00
Fourth: 0.69
Reverse: 2.29

Funny that it has the same ratios as the 700R4/4L60E

but thanks for trying.
dont get smart with me.

Everything I read when it first came out over a year ago said it was based off the TH350 and that some parts from the TH350 were interchangable. Gear ratio information wasnt even available at the time and being that I didnt even consider it an option I recently havent bothered to look into it. Obviously thats not the case and old news is not good news, oh well. GM would be to stupid to do something like that anyway I guess, I should have known better.
 

George Blake

DONATING MEMBER
Re: 6l60e

GM changed the material in the output shaft and called it a 4L70E. I think it is a marketing thing since they are blowing up so many 4L65E's in the 6.0 liters.
 

'JustDreamin'

Dream: 6LV8 Turbo Bravada
Re: 6l60e

dgoodhue said:
Isn't the 700r4 based loosely on the TH350 anyways?

Depends upon what your idea of "based loosely" is.....

They're both hydraulically operated planetary transmissions made by General Motors. Beyond that, I'm not sure how similar they are. The TH350 certainly is a stouter piece of hardware.

For reference, the TH350 gear ratios are 2.52:1 1st, 1.52:1 2nd, and 1:1 3rd.

'JustDreamin'
 
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