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T-Bone
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cat-vi
Ty Wannabe
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
I'm drooling over the engine, nice piece. I dig your rig as well, I'm quite often "over there" as we say about US, I've allways loved those rigs, even though it is not often see a "hot rod" like yours. Looking forward to follow your thread.
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
I'm drooling over the engine, nice piece. I dig your rig as well, I'm quite often "over there" as we say about US, I've allways loved those rigs, even though it is not often see a "hot rod" like yours. Looking forward to follow your thread.
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
gods gift to the community?wtf?
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
gods gift to the community?wtf?
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Norm
Donating Member
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
You went through alot of work to strip that engine down in the chassis. How come you didn't just yank it all out. It would take 3-4 hours to pull the engine instead of taking it out peice by peice. Not trying to start anything,just asking.
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
You went through alot of work to strip that engine down in the chassis. How come you didn't just yank it all out. It would take 3-4 hours to pull the engine instead of taking it out peice by peice. Not trying to start anything,just asking.
eviltwin
"junkyard syclone"
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
Dude, you are a legend in your own mind. Mandy is just stating a fact... You came on here buying and selling shit, she is just warning people. If you knew its wasnt a syclone engine you would probably be all talking about how people said it wasnt possible but you did it!
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
Dude, you are a legend in your own mind. Mandy is just stating a fact... You came on here buying and selling shit, she is just warning people. If you knew its wasnt a syclone engine you would probably be all talking about how people said it wasnt possible but you did it!
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
and now i make a build thread and all of the sudden everyone has something to say other then to qoute the build lol this is funny.
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
and now i make a build thread and all of the sudden everyone has something to say other then to qoute the build lol this is funny.
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BanMan
New member
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
This post had good tech info in it. So here it is again:
And I dont't care what it ran like. It could have been cutting 6's for all i care. That's not a SyTy engine, and you didn't know it. I'd be interested to know if any of these predictions pan-out. Such as bent rods, or Tonawanda rods, if you know the difference, or the non Nodular caps.. Obviously this wasn't written by mandi. It was written by someone with a hell of a lot more SyTy experience than you are EVER likely to acquire. Keep up the attitude, dude. You're really liked on here. Not.
The expected compression pressure for a SyTy engine is 145psi. And you have 180. That's too high, and causes lots of knock-retard and driveability issues.
I'm sure you don't care about this engine, as you are replacing it. But I'm sure it will possibly be showing up in the FS section as a "killer deal". Here's a heads-up for potential buyers:
Those are NOT SyTy low-compression pistons. Those are regular 9.5:1 LB4 pistons that are used in a NA TBI engine. Hence the high cranking pressure.
There was talk way back regarding 'regular' engines being used for SyTy replacements by Dealers. These 'regular' engines don't have the Nodular caps, correct compression pistons, and are often Tonawanda engines that have weaker connecting rods. I predict that when you get this opened up, you will find at least one bent connecting rod. Probably #4 cyl. It will be obviously bent. And the center two main bearings are probably going to be to the copper from the detonation.
To potential buyers: Be very, very careful about purchasing this engine. Ask a LOT of questions.
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy" #2048
This post had good tech info in it. So here it is again:
And I dont't care what it ran like. It could have been cutting 6's for all i care. That's not a SyTy engine, and you didn't know it. I'd be interested to know if any of these predictions pan-out. Such as bent rods, or Tonawanda rods, if you know the difference, or the non Nodular caps.. Obviously this wasn't written by mandi. It was written by someone with a hell of a lot more SyTy experience than you are EVER likely to acquire. Keep up the attitude, dude. You're really liked on here. Not.
The expected compression pressure for a SyTy engine is 145psi. And you have 180. That's too high, and causes lots of knock-retard and driveability issues.
I'm sure you don't care about this engine, as you are replacing it. But I'm sure it will possibly be showing up in the FS section as a "killer deal". Here's a heads-up for potential buyers:
Those are NOT SyTy low-compression pistons. Those are regular 9.5:1 LB4 pistons that are used in a NA TBI engine. Hence the high cranking pressure.
There was talk way back regarding 'regular' engines being used for SyTy replacements by Dealers. These 'regular' engines don't have the Nodular caps, correct compression pistons, and are often Tonawanda engines that have weaker connecting rods. I predict that when you get this opened up, you will find at least one bent connecting rod. Probably #4 cyl. It will be obviously bent. And the center two main bearings are probably going to be to the copper from the detonation.
To potential buyers: Be very, very careful about purchasing this engine. Ask a LOT of questions.
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BanMan
New member
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
More tech stuff:
Note the compression height difference between #1 and #4 cyls. I'm of course assuming that the crank was not turned between taking the two pics. Looks like #4 is visibly lower than #1. They should be the same heigth.
If you'd shut your trap, and read what peeps have to say, you could learn stuff.
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
More tech stuff:
Note the compression height difference between #1 and #4 cyls. I'm of course assuming that the crank was not turned between taking the two pics. Looks like #4 is visibly lower than #1. They should be the same heigth.
If you'd shut your trap, and read what peeps have to say, you could learn stuff.
BoostedSUV
Active member
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Anybody want to take bets that this project will never happen? Even if it does it's not going to be a 10 second Sy. My bet is leaning towards this truck getting parted out just like the last project he started. I'd love to see it all come together but I'm doubtful that the knowledge/money is there to do so.
Oh by the way, we're probably beyond this topic but I was maxing out my 50lb injectors going in the 12s. I'm very doubtful they will provide the fueling you need to get into the 10s. :2cents:
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Anybody want to take bets that this project will never happen? Even if it does it's not going to be a 10 second Sy. My bet is leaning towards this truck getting parted out just like the last project he started. I'd love to see it all come together but I'm doubtful that the knowledge/money is there to do so.
Oh by the way, we're probably beyond this topic but I was maxing out my 50lb injectors going in the 12s. I'm very doubtful they will provide the fueling you need to get into the 10s. :2cents:
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
The block should not be stamp with the letter 'SY'
For all S-10's and Sonoma's, The driverside rear pad should be stamped with a S for S-Series or T for T-Series and then the VIN derivative starting with the year digit.
Post up the numbers on the passenger side pad on front of cylinder head, that will have the date code and what type of engine it was.
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
The block should not be stamp with the letter 'SY'
For all S-10's and Sonoma's, The driverside rear pad should be stamped with a S for S-Series or T for T-Series and then the VIN derivative starting with the year digit.
Post up the numbers on the passenger side pad on front of cylinder head, that will have the date code and what type of engine it was.
LIL QIK
HELL YEA I GOT BOOST!
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
If I'm not mistaken....he's got most everything except the somewhat expensive management system it's going to take to run the odd fire setup. I think if he had that....he'd probalby go straight bowtie....atleast I would.
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
If I'm not mistaken....he's got most everything except the somewhat expensive management system it's going to take to run the odd fire setup. I think if he had that....he'd probalby go straight bowtie....atleast I would.
MRKING
New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Having a bowtie block in your truck doesnt automatically make it better or faster . I cant count how many people have come in , stripped down a mostly original syty , built a motor just to run 10's or better , and then eventually sell it all because the combo or truck just wouldnt ever run properly . Theres quite a few purists on our forum that live-eat-sleep sytys , so "who cares" ,and "this will shut some people up" comments arent going to get you any popularity votes .
Just remember , the answers you seek will always be held by the people here . Good luck .
More honey = more bees , less = less IMO .
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Having a bowtie block in your truck doesnt automatically make it better or faster . I cant count how many people have come in , stripped down a mostly original syty , built a motor just to run 10's or better , and then eventually sell it all because the combo or truck just wouldnt ever run properly . Theres quite a few purists on our forum that live-eat-sleep sytys , so "who cares" ,and "this will shut some people up" comments arent going to get you any popularity votes .
Just remember , the answers you seek will always be held by the people here . Good luck .
More honey = more bees , less = less IMO .
LIL QIK
HELL YEA I GOT BOOST!
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Just a friendly suggestion. Before you buy that XFI system from your buddy...you might want to call FAST and verify that it will work with your application. If memory serves me correctly....I don't think FAST supports odd fire. I could be wrong....but I would verify if I were in your situation...
Re: rebuild of renegade"sy"
Just a friendly suggestion. Before you buy that XFI system from your buddy...you might want to call FAST and verify that it will work with your application. If memory serves me correctly....I don't think FAST supports odd fire. I could be wrong....but I would verify if I were in your situation...