Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
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sytyguy
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Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the tr
Agreed. Some people are happy with mod quoting and bench racing w/o ever hitting the track. To each their own, but what's the point of building something and always making excuses for it?
Hood
Jimmy said:
Agreed. Some people are happy with mod quoting and bench racing w/o ever hitting the track. To each their own, but what's the point of building something and always making excuses for it?
Hood
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Or some poeple are just to damn busy tuning and breaking and fixing shit they dont have time to post on here.
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Or some poeple are just to damn busy tuning and breaking and fixing shit they dont have time to post on here.
alwayscode390
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Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I keep finding parts to add to my combo, and want to do it all at one time .... so right now I have a fast STORAGE ROOM, lol. Starts to make me sad though
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Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I keep finding parts to add to my combo, and want to do it all at one time .... so right now I have a fast STORAGE ROOM, lol. Starts to make me sad though
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BigAl...
Member
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the tr
I love to hear the noise from the cheap seats! some of us that have spent as much as the cost of a small home, might think twice about just going and thrashing our hard earned money for the entertainment of others. I think those that have spent the big money will make it to the track/dyno in due time, but on our time. Just look at what happened to Robert a few weeks ago, I would imagine that cost a few bucks to repair (turbo alone was $2k+) even if he did all the work himself, it still cost many hours of work. It's real easy to sit back and demand "when are you going to the track" but when you have $x,xxx in your turbo and $x,xxx in your heads and yadayadayada you start to think twice about pushing the envelope.
just my $.02 worth (that was cheap)
BigAl...
I love to hear the noise from the cheap seats! some of us that have spent as much as the cost of a small home, might think twice about just going and thrashing our hard earned money for the entertainment of others. I think those that have spent the big money will make it to the track/dyno in due time, but on our time. Just look at what happened to Robert a few weeks ago, I would imagine that cost a few bucks to repair (turbo alone was $2k+) even if he did all the work himself, it still cost many hours of work. It's real easy to sit back and demand "when are you going to the track" but when you have $x,xxx in your turbo and $x,xxx in your heads and yadayadayada you start to think twice about pushing the envelope.
just my $.02 worth (that was cheap)
BigAl...
JSM
Active member
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
While I follow what your saying Al, at some point if an owner of the go fast goodies is afraid to break it, what good are they?
Why not push "cheaper" parts to the limit, knowing you can afford to replace it.
One thing about Robert is he is not afraid to race it when possible (alghough that isn't much in Sweden). If it breaks he rarely lets it sit for just a few hours, let alone weeks or days. I am still not sure when he sleeps.
I guess what I am saying is if you have the "GOOD" parts but are afraid to use them, what "good" are they?
Now I can fully apprecaite the tuning stages and taking things easy.
Not disagreeing, just stating the other side.
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
While I follow what your saying Al, at some point if an owner of the go fast goodies is afraid to break it, what good are they?
Why not push "cheaper" parts to the limit, knowing you can afford to replace it.
One thing about Robert is he is not afraid to race it when possible (alghough that isn't much in Sweden). If it breaks he rarely lets it sit for just a few hours, let alone weeks or days. I am still not sure when he sleeps.
I guess what I am saying is if you have the "GOOD" parts but are afraid to use them, what "good" are they?
Now I can fully apprecaite the tuning stages and taking things easy.
Not disagreeing, just stating the other side.
BigAl...
Member
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the tr
Jeff, you're always the voice of reason. (of course I've seen you at the nationals, maybe I should take that back I hear ya and we will make it to the track, but like you said tuning, breakin all takes time, these builds aren't as simple as throwing in an ultimate chip.
BigAl...
Jeff, you're always the voice of reason. (of course I've seen you at the nationals, maybe I should take that back
I hear ya and we will make it to the track, but like you said tuning, breakin all takes time, these builds aren't as simple as throwing in an ultimate chip.BigAl...
JSM
Active member
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Wasn't picking on you Al, although maybe I should in order for you to show up at nats with your truck.
But more of a general statement. I know the tuning side, my truck is going to be full of tuning crap if/when it runs again.
Plus you have just shown how much you know, calling me a voice of reason. I don't know crap about anything.
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Wasn't picking on you Al, although maybe I should in order for you to show up at nats with your truck.
But more of a general statement. I know the tuning side, my truck is going to be full of tuning crap if/when it runs again.
Plus you have just shown how much you know, calling me a voice of reason. I don't know crap about anything.
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
not everyone builds a fast car to race it at the drag strip. not everyone cares about drag racing in general.
i personally like seeing hp/tq #s, and ets. Dunno why some people build monster trucks w/o a baseline to compare it to - its their choice though.
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
not everyone builds a fast car to race it at the drag strip. not everyone cares about drag racing in general.
i personally like seeing hp/tq #s, and ets. Dunno why some people build monster trucks w/o a baseline to compare it to - its their choice though.
NOJIMMY
New member
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
No flames but...
...I think you may be over generalizing the owners and the vehicles on this site.
Do you mean Race-only vehicles, or licensed Street Vehicles?
(Racing vehicles have vendors, sometimes sponsors, developmental parts, and usually associated car/parts businesses. I find their times interesting, but not alway factual - ie read
the latest hotrod mag on why/how dyno numbers are bogus. Alot of times things are
done to attract customers - which pay the bills, so there is nothing wrong in doing this.)
(Licensed Street Vehicles are a totally different ballpark. Some individuals just want
to enhance their trucks to "play"....like dean is doing with his Sy, without formally
running and publishing track numbers. Track numbers dont always tell the truth either.
Is the track highly prepared...what is the temps/humidity, were the drivers staging long,
did the 60` times suffer, did they hook up, were they running street tires, 17" rims or
larger...etc. This site tends to think everyone is a supertuner, expert racer, and a
peep who can tune/test at 30 psi, with 26 degrees of timing on race gas. These
types of et times/tunes arent your normal "street setup"...altho dean does seem to have
his down pat ...grin). Some cant afford to race a track (its damn expense at some
tracks); some use their trucks as hobbies; and some would rather attend shows,
autocrosses, or street scenes (with or without money on the line).
I really dont put much stock into "all" syty posts anyway- whether they have so called go fast goodies
or not. It wasnt "that" many months ago that this site complained if...
-a V8 was put into a truck...as if it were a religious violation.
-a TH400 wasnt used for high hp drivelines (no one thought a 80e would work)
-rims bigger than 17" ZR1s could be used (and look good)
-non-std SyTy paint schemes could be used (much less flames or lightning bolts)
-and so called accessories could be deleted - devaluing a truck for future owners.
There used to be a "herd" mentality and little acceptance for anything new.
Marty seems to have smashed this trend tho ...grin....but if I use him as an example
some will complain that his et`s will be either unpublished, or too slow based
on the expenses shelled out. Few will see the beauty of his truck - and say "oh geez, a tt should go 9`s...or "what good is it if he never runs it?" etc
Realize that some folks just want a nice ride, that surprise people at stop
lights (like Z06s) and could care less about what others think.
Except for the true diehards (like robert, phil long, and few others)
et times didnt mean much anyway. Was it one-time-only, on good conditions
with a tail wind - or a first time effort with a conservative tune?
Until this site becomes a race-only forum, its pretty neat that newbies,
old timers, race gurus, show stoppers, drivers, restorers, and part timers
can all come and talk syty without having to say "my penis is bigger than
yours because I run a such and such et".
my $.02
-Larry Brown
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
denny said:
No flames but...
...I think you may be over generalizing the owners and the vehicles on this site.
Do you mean Race-only vehicles, or licensed Street Vehicles?
(Racing vehicles have vendors, sometimes sponsors, developmental parts, and usually associated car/parts businesses. I find their times interesting, but not alway factual - ie read
the latest hotrod mag on why/how dyno numbers are bogus. Alot of times things are
done to attract customers - which pay the bills, so there is nothing wrong in doing this.)
(Licensed Street Vehicles are a totally different ballpark. Some individuals just want
to enhance their trucks to "play"....like dean is doing with his Sy, without formally
running and publishing track numbers. Track numbers dont always tell the truth either.
Is the track highly prepared...what is the temps/humidity, were the drivers staging long,
did the 60` times suffer, did they hook up, were they running street tires, 17" rims or
larger...etc. This site tends to think everyone is a supertuner, expert racer, and a
peep who can tune/test at 30 psi, with 26 degrees of timing on race gas. These
types of et times/tunes arent your normal "street setup"...altho dean does seem to have
his down pat ...grin). Some cant afford to race a track (its damn expense at some
tracks); some use their trucks as hobbies; and some would rather attend shows,
autocrosses, or street scenes (with or without money on the line).
I really dont put much stock into "all" syty posts anyway- whether they have so called go fast goodies
or not. It wasnt "that" many months ago that this site complained if...
-a V8 was put into a truck...as if it were a religious violation.
-a TH400 wasnt used for high hp drivelines (no one thought a 80e would work)
-rims bigger than 17" ZR1s could be used (and look good)
-non-std SyTy paint schemes could be used (much less flames or lightning bolts)
-and so called accessories could be deleted - devaluing a truck for future owners.
There used to be a "herd" mentality and little acceptance for anything new.
Marty seems to have smashed this trend tho ...grin....but if I use him as an example
some will complain that his et`s will be either unpublished, or too slow based
on the expenses shelled out. Few will see the beauty of his truck - and say "oh geez, a tt should go 9`s...or "what good is it if he never runs it?" etc
Realize that some folks just want a nice ride, that surprise people at stop
lights (like Z06s) and could care less about what others think.
Except for the true diehards (like robert, phil long, and few others)
et times didnt mean much anyway. Was it one-time-only, on good conditions
with a tail wind - or a first time effort with a conservative tune?
Until this site becomes a race-only forum, its pretty neat that newbies,
old timers, race gurus, show stoppers, drivers, restorers, and part timers
can all come and talk syty without having to say "my penis is bigger than
yours because I run a such and such et".
my $.02
-Larry Brown
Kybol
New member
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I wouldn't mind goin to the track to see what kinda times I could put down, but it is a 2 hr+ drive to get there, not really worth it.
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I wouldn't mind goin to the track to see what kinda times I could put down, but it is a 2 hr+ drive to get there, not really worth it.
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the tr
i have a whole list of reasons or "excuses" if you like.
1/ i am pretty green at drag racing, let alone racing <9.50 vehicles. the truck, as-is, at 15psi, is, by quite a bit, the most powerful vehicle i have ever drive - i think renz can speak to how it feels to ride in.
2/ the motor isnt 100% where it should be (tuning, etc); i am not risking a 20k motor because i am on someone else's time table
3/ the truck needs some safety stuff before i am willing to go all out- eliminate some driveline issues, improve braking, etc; again, not willing to risk the whole thing or me for someone else's time table.
4/ the driver needs some upgrades - safety gear aside, i need to make some license runs and get some seat time
5/ i am overseas over 50% of my time (france mostly, but various asian countries as well)
so, call me what you like, but it will run the numbers its capable of in due time and when i do i will post the video and slips/dyno sheets to go with them when it happens.
until then, i am gonna just enjoy the project of putting it together and making it what i want it to be and the rush that thing brings every time i lean on the go pedal while running around on the streets of south-east michigan.
i have a whole list of reasons or "excuses" if you like.
1/ i am pretty green at drag racing, let alone racing <9.50 vehicles. the truck, as-is, at 15psi, is, by quite a bit, the most powerful vehicle i have ever drive - i think renz can speak to how it feels to ride in.
2/ the motor isnt 100% where it should be (tuning, etc); i am not risking a 20k motor because i am on someone else's time table
3/ the truck needs some safety stuff before i am willing to go all out- eliminate some driveline issues, improve braking, etc; again, not willing to risk the whole thing or me for someone else's time table.
4/ the driver needs some upgrades - safety gear aside, i need to make some license runs and get some seat time
5/ i am overseas over 50% of my time (france mostly, but various asian countries as well)
so, call me what you like, but it will run the numbers its capable of in due time and when i do i will post the video and slips/dyno sheets to go with them when it happens.
until then, i am gonna just enjoy the project of putting it together and making it what i want it to be and the rush that thing brings every time i lean on the go pedal while running around on the streets of south-east michigan.
sytyguy
Moderated User
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I can definitely see everyone's side to this. Obviously everyone is different, but I know how much time and sweat some of you have in your trucks and to see it sit in the garage or only go to car shows, seems (to me) to be a complete disservice. I can relate, however, as one of my car show buddies has a 100 pt Nationally Certified '69 Camaro that he rolled off the rollback in 1969 and into his garage. I give him hell all the time about how useless the car is from an enjoyment standpoint. BUT his definition of enjoyment is different than mine. He likes the acclaim the car brings and the praise of others, while I mostly enjoy being by myself on a lonely road, thrashing the thing I built (with a big smile on my face as I do.)
Like I said, to each his own. No right or wrong here, IMO......and, by no means, was I "calling" anyone anything.
Hood
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I can definitely see everyone's side to this. Obviously everyone is different, but I know how much time and sweat some of you have in your trucks and to see it sit in the garage or only go to car shows, seems (to me) to be a complete disservice. I can relate, however, as one of my car show buddies has a 100 pt Nationally Certified '69 Camaro that he rolled off the rollback in 1969 and into his garage. I give him hell all the time about how useless the car is from an enjoyment standpoint. BUT his definition of enjoyment is different than mine. He likes the acclaim the car brings and the praise of others, while I mostly enjoy being by myself on a lonely road, thrashing the thing I built (with a big smile on my face as I do.)
Like I said, to each his own. No right or wrong here, IMO......and, by no means, was I "calling" anyone anything.
Hood
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I don't have that many go fast goodies, but I like to goto the track whenever my truck is running right. I live 2 hours form teh track put its a place where I don;t have to worry about speeding tickets. I try to run it how I would run it on the street so I know how fast it is. I like the challenge of bettering my previous best times and knowing if it stacks up well against what others have run inorder to see how my tune is.
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I don't have that many go fast goodies, but I like to goto the track whenever my truck is running right. I live 2 hours form teh track put its a place where I don;t have to worry about speeding tickets. I try to run it how I would run it on the street so I know how fast it is. I like the challenge of bettering my previous best times and knowing if it stacks up well against what others have run inorder to see how my tune is.
420
Broke Ass Racing
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I can only speak for myself and answer "Street racer and don't want to publish 1/4 time.". Although this is more of a future answer, as the truck is still coming together
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
I can only speak for myself and answer "Street racer and don't want to publish 1/4 time.". Although this is more of a future answer, as the truck is still coming together
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
One thing I notice quite a bit at car show is lot of those cars are way out of tune. I think the parts are on the car for more for show than go. I can't tell you how many time I have see owner leaving a show with a nasty looking motor under his or popping out his hood and being surprise how slow it is when the owner gets on it to show off.
Re: Why people with all the go fast goodies never post their 1/4 time or go to the track?
One thing I notice quite a bit at car show is lot of those cars are way out of tune. I think the parts are on the car for more for show than go. I can't tell you how many time I have see owner leaving a show with a nasty looking motor under his or popping out his hood and being surprise how slow it is when the owner gets on it to show off.