What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

Rice Eater

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I have seen quite a few Ty's with rust above the rear glass. My Ty is clean and I would like to know where the moisture comes from so I can try to prevent this from happening.

Chris
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

I would guess that its a place where the road dirt & salt collects.
 

Norm

Donating Member
Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

combination of the place of the truck that has no insulation so it gets hot/cold and condensation forms there.
 

Norm

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Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

Thank you. Any ideas for the best route of prevention?

Chris

pull the headliner down, check and see if there is any surface rust, if there is sand it, prime and seal it and even since it is not seen, you could even undercoat it.
 

1blkc4

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Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

I have been looking at a few typhoons this seems the common place and around the wheel wells .
 

TeeTopZ

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Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

Winter has a lot to do with rust. They use salt in the winter when it snows, and salt causes rust.
 

Jimmy

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Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

I have seen quite a few Ty's with rust above the rear glass. My Ty is clean and I would like to know where the moisture comes from so I can try to prevent this from happening.

Chris

If you are talking about a truck with a roof rack,its because the screws that hold the rack on are not sealed.The roof is basically a colander when it rains.
 

Rice Eater

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Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

My Ty basically lives in the garage and I was told it has never been driven in the Winter when I bought it in NC.

Yes, it has the roof rack option. I am going to pull the headliner and see what I can do from the inside. Given the roof rack option would it be better to remove each fastener and add sealant from the exterior or can I access the fasteners from the inside.

Chris
 

Jimmy

Banned
Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

My Ty basically lives in the garage and I was told it has never been driven in the Winter when I bought it in NC.

Yes, it has the roof rack option. I am going to pull the headliner and see what I can do from the inside. Given the roof rack option would it be better to remove each fastener and add sealant from the exterior or can I access the fasteners from the inside.

Chris
Leave the headliner alone.Seal the colander.
 

Captain Morgan

Moderated User
Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

the truck I bought off of Gary last year is an original non-roof rack truck, it still had rust above that back window and its the ONLY place there is rust on the truck. The floor pans and wheel wheels are MINT, not to mention its an original Florida truck and Florida has no winter.
 

Norm

Donating Member
Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

the truck I bought off of Gary last year is an original non-roof rack truck, it still had rust above that back window and its the ONLY place there is rust on the truck. The floor pans and wheel wheels are MINT, not to mention its an original Florida truck and Florida has no winter.

but Florida has salt water and salt in the air. Seen a few people from where I live buy cars from Florida and then when you crawl under them there is rust issues.
 

Captain Morgan

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Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

but Florida has salt water and salt in the air. Seen a few people from where I live buy cars from Florida and then when you crawl under them there is rust issues.
yup, I live on the ocean in NJ, I've dealt with salt air my whole life, its the reason why I ended up cutting up my El Camino last year.

I said the rest of the truck is mint, floor pans, wheel wells, frame, suspension parts, nuts and bolts, etc. It might not be "Arizona mint", but there isnt a single issue anywhere else on the truck, except above the back window.

Salt air and winter do not explain why it attacks above the back window on Blazers/Jimmys/Typhoons.

Sorry not trying to be argumentative, I don't have a solid answer to give either, but it really is a very common issue on all these trucks, more so than anyplace else on the body.
 

ziembic

Donating Member
Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

When the bare sheet metal bodies are immersion-dipped in the vat for anti corrosion treatment, the cowl is lower than the rear, so the air bubble under the roof vents to the rear. That very rear portion of the roof remains in an air pocket and doesn't get treated. The exterior gets the primer and paint treatments, but that portion of the interior roof panel never receives anything. It probably began to rust before it got to the end of the assembly line.

The heat/cool cycles, and the lack of insulation form condensation on the inside of that portion, particularly in cold climates when driven frequently. (More thermal cycles to form condensation). As Norm mentioned.

Another very common spot to find corrosion on these trucks is the bottom of the doors and tailgate. This thread hasn't mentioned that yet.

Also behind the cladding on the lower rear portion of the front fenders.
 

V

Donating Member
Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

I've taken apart two Blazers with no signs of rust on the back of the roof. Here's what I've found:

If you had x-ray vision and could see past the dome light bulkhead, this is what you'd see.
The top of the pic is the underside of the roof, the bottom of the pic is the structure that supports the glass hinge (red dot). The truck was white. The green coat is complete. Looks great, right?

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After removing the structure, there is rust at almost every spot weld. The green coat is pristine throughout the underside of the roof. There is nothing but seam sealer protecting the holes for the hinge (red dot).

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The last pic represents a typical corner at the top of the hatch opening. The radius of the roof (red dot) is different from the radius of the underlying structure. Seam sealer is the only thing preventing moisture from getting inside and gathering under the roof. There was a hole in the sealer of this particular roof.

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Hope that helps.
 
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Rice Eater

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Re: What Causes Rust Above Rear Glass?

Thank you for the information. I am going to take a look at both the seam sealer and roof rack holes.

I know the bottom of the doors and tail gate areas are prone to rust but I was only focusing on the roof. Good information about preventing rust in those other areas are all welcomed too.

Chris
 
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