TN grows again :)

[T-Bone]

Re: TN grows again

That is anything BUT a "nice truck". I've owned a lot of "nice" vehichles. This one does not qualify for that moniker.

It is a crusty pile of s hit, that looks OK in pics. As usual T-Bag seems to be tooting his own horn as to how bitchin' all his stuff is. Allowing this, without admitting that "it's not as nice as it looks in pics" just drops him a few pegs in my book, and casts doubt in my mind on how 'nice' any of his other cars really are as well.

Needs two front fenders, a door, probably a tailgate, and extensive rear roof repairs. The rear roof has had previous repair, and is bleeding back through again. No brake system, the suspension is messed up, who knows what is 'wrong' in the differentials, because hacker-Todd built them. . Daron is right, the color is a clean MISS. The metallic size and shape is incorrect, and the BC/CC is way too glossy. It is a non-standard paint, poorly applied. The cladding was not removed for the repaint, and a lot of weatherstrip and other parts are painted blue. In other words a "500.00 paint job". Regardless of what it really did or didn't cost.

My main reason for passing on purchasing this truck after a 6 hour inspection, and traveling over 1,000 miles out of my way to see it, was there is no way for this to be anything other than just another rusty $5,000 POS Typhoon without replacing sheet metal, and a complete repaint. In my initial discussions with Mike he knew I did not want to have to repaint. Starting with a badly painted truck in the first place, this was looking like a minimum of a 15K restoration project. Definitely not worth it.

Glad you got a "great deal" T-bag. I'm sure my 500.00 dollars helped Douch Bag Mike let it go as cheap as he did. Everything in that guy's garage is junk. Including the ZR1. Nice of you to take some of it out for him.

Sure, it looks great in pics. But it's pretty crusty and deteriorated if you get a chance to look at it. Not to mention cobbled and hacked. This one will also end up being parted, is my guess. That's really all it's worth. No, I don't think it's "a nice truck", or I would have bought it.

Wow....do I even know you?? Who in their right mind even THINKS a truck priced for $7500 with a LS1 motor and a 4L80E Trans is gonna be in showroom condition? Well, besides you of course....and stop leading forum members to deduce you made a trip out east and spent all kinds of money to JUST buy this truck. Business took you by there enroute to Florida so in reality, the trip cost you almost nothing.

It doesn't have the factory windshield...so what?
It doesn't have the factory fluid in the master cylinder? Again, so what.
It doesn't sport the factory rims and tires either....hmmmm!!
The paint is not original. I can fix that.
The grill needs painted. Easy fix.
It doesn't come with the original radiator. Oh my, should I pass on the purchase???

I don't know where you found all this alleged rust. Maybe Mike took out a spraycan and matched the paint perfect and covered it all up before I arrived. There is a spot on the inner underside of each fender the size of a quarter at best (a dime on the DS). I can live with that and have it professionally fixed. I have looked at a number of dorked up trucks and IF this were one, it would still be in GA.

Bottom line is you passed on it and I bought it. Don't be a hater. If you have differences with Mike and others, take it offline.....and as to respect, my name has been the same since I have been a member around here. I don't hide behind different aliases :dunno:.

Mike's ZR1 is an awesome car. It might not be 100% original but it is all his and to look down on someone because their possessions don't meet your assessment of perfection is ludicrous. I'd like to see some pics of what you drive. One thing is blatantly clear out of all this.....you are sure gifted at making friends.

Ok, now I'll try to act civil again .

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: TN grows again

ahh this is the ls1 truck thought I missed an aspen for sale

 

[DaveP]

Re: TN grows again

I don't know where you found all this alleged rust. Maybe Mike took out a spraycan and matched the paint perfect and covered it all up before I arrived. There is a spot on the inner underside of each fender the size of a quarter at best (a dime on the DS).

Very funny, but you're lying. You're defending yourself because you want to build a reputation when this POS goes back on the market. You're an Evangelical Preacher. So you are a salesman. You'll only make statements that support your case, or discredit your 'critics'. The truth be dammed.

So only visible rust matters, eh? That's where I got f ucked by mike, too. I did not want a project that needed a complete repaint to be as nice as the 92 I sold in September. Mike knew this. He did not know my standards. Fair enough. But this truck needs two new fenders and a door. There is no way to match the paint because the material that was used is un-known, and is probably no longer available. The metallic size and shape is just not going to be the same 10 years later. The only way out is a complete re-paint. I did not want to do this. Especially starting at 7K for a "roller". That's the lowest Mike came down to while I was there.

You want to discredit me, fine. Here's how. Post up some pics of the following:

• The inner RH fender where the battery goes. There isn't enough structure left to bolt the tray to.
• The LF fender where the inner wheel housing butts up to it. Once again, swiss cheese. There isn't even a way to screw the cladding to the fender. It's all rotted away.
• The bottom,inside of the Pass door. That hole in it is where I put my finger right through it.
• The rear roof above the window. Close-up where the rust is coming back through two 1" long cracks in the paint. Even better would be a shot of the roof from the inside with the headliner removed. I'll bet it's not pretty.
• Tailgate looks OK from the outside, but was marginal looking down inside it through the latch area. There is some rust along the bottom seam. May or may not need replacement.

I did like the "fluid in the master cyl is not origional". Shit the master cyl isn't even on the firewall. Either is anything else. There were no brake calipers on the front, and the rear brakes weren't close to being operational.

I have looked at a number of dorked up trucks and IF this were one, it would still be in GA.

Well, you either don't know a "dorked up truck" when you see one, there's a huge disparity in our standards ( I don't think so. You're an Evangelical you only 'see' what you want to see), or you're just being the salesman by taking this 'position'. I think it's the latter.

Post those pics! I dare you. Let the masses decide.

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: TN grows again

 

[Beavis]

Re: TN grows again

Dick.....:rotf:

 

[TNPhoon]

Re: TN grows again

opcorn2:

 

[MacDaddy Playa]

Re: T-Bone IMO

Re: T-Bone IMO

For DaveP:

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and in other areas of their life, such as work or school.

You cannot convince T-Bone that he is ever wrong,no matter the evidence.

Honestly,it would probably be better to argue with a doorstop.

 

[Tydriver]

Re: TN grows again

Sorry T-bone for crapping in your thread, I don't even know you but I felt obligated to respond. Most likely this post will get deleted by the ADMIN anyhow.. Who ever "DAVE P" is, he is apparently so full of himself that I wanted to speak my peace and tell him to quit his crybaby ranting and bitching and moaning and lastly a giant F*U*C*K YOU TO DAVE P !


I took personal offense to the comment listed here:

No brake system, the suspension is messed up, who knows what is 'wrong' in the differentials, because hacker-Todd built them. .

I realize your so bent over on this truck you will fail to see any sanity or reasoning but I am going to say me peace and then unsubscribe from this thread as I don't need to get dragged into another flame war on SYTY.net ( childish digs like this are the reason I quite frequenting this site) there were a few other contributing factors but mounting medical bills and a general loss of interest forced my selling of the truck.

For your information,

• I am an FAA licensed aircraft mechanic, I went to 2 years of formalized training to gain 2 FAA required licensing. I have 8 cumulative years working on commercial aircraft that hold over 400 people on trans-continental flights, countless other years working on any number of pieces of machinery from cars to multi-million dollar high speed presses and packaging equipment. Most recent employment included working on FDA validated packing equipment for a MAJOR and very prominent pharmaceutical company. You know.. The jobs that us 'hackers' like to get..

• When I owned this truck the year I took it to Nationals not only did it win "BEST PAINT" but it also won "FASTEST STOCK" truck. Again this was some time ago but this isn't something every SyTy owner can claim.

• This truck was sold 2+ years ago, upon sale of the truck at that time, I was very clear to point out the areas of concern with the rust on the front fenders and the area over the rear window. What does a standard S10 fender cost or even a pair ? New from GM they are dirt cheap, re-spray new sheet metal, attach the cladding and go. The only real concern on this truck was the area of rust over the rear window. Good god almighty the damn thing is approaching 19 years old, your pissed it needs some paint work ? LOL There aren't many trucks out there that DON'T need paintwork at one point in time at that age. Your just plain ignorant to assume otherwise. Oh and for the record, when the truck was painted back before i purchased it, I saw the invoice for the paint work, it was north of $4000. Did they remove the cladding, NO, should they have, YES.. Is it the end of the world ? LOL apparently to you it is.

• I was made aware of the ad after Nick sold the truck, and the pictures when the person in GA was trying to flip the truck, he merely re-posted the pictures that were posted back when the other owner got the truck from me 2+ years ago.. Your dumb-ass didn't ask for any more pics than that and then drove all the way across the country ?? I guess you got what you deserved and cry like a baby when you didn't get your deposit refunded... Typical, based on how you've acted on this site I can only imagine how you acted in person, the guy in GA probably just kept the $500 for putting up with your damn whining and crying. The pictures in his ad were 2+ years old, WTF were you thinking ? Apparently you know who I am (even though I have no clue who you are), you apparently knew that this was my old truck. You never attempted to contact me to ask me questions about the truck (at this point I am thankful of this seeing your true colors).

• As far as the paint color is concerned, line up 3 or 4 aspen blues and I guarantee you will see a difference in paint color. Even on trucks that were supposedly 'untouched', welcome to early 90's GM Paint Quality Control.. Most of the aspen blues if they were ever enjoyed required a re-spray because the OEM paint was so crappy it just flat didn't last ! Daron's truck that you refer to was ALSO a repaint and he admitted that he asked for more SILVER FLAKE to be sprayed with the blue when I talked to him years ago about the truck color. I'd be surprised if the paint matches 100% on his truck when you pull the carpet back, especially since GM didn't spray CLEAR on this areas, only the exterior, if at all. This truck WAS clear coated when it was sprayed.

• As far as the differentials that you are questioning, yes they are NOT stock, the rear (assuming nothing has been changed) has a $600 EATON POSI in it that was setup correctly and had almost 5000 mi put on it (of hard use I may add) and worked flawlessly. This was installed because during the disc brake conversion to LS1 Fbody rear brakes when the cover was pulled it was found that the craptastic GM locker had shredded itself. The new bearings were installed and the diff was topped off with Mobil 1 full synthetic fluid because that's how us "hacks" roll :tup:

• The front differential (again assuming it hasn't been touched) has Richmond Gear "Lock Right" locker in it with all new bearings in it from flange to flange. I looked hi and low for a POSI unit for the front and it just didn't exist for that differential and I wanted true AWD not 3/4 AWD as I intended to auto cross the truck.. I elected to go with the lock right unit as its easily removed if indeed I didn't like the driving characteristics of it... Before installing this unit I consulted with Mr John Gerber who had the same unit in his White street driven AWD Typhoon. I figured he was knocking on mid 10s at that time with his truck and we've all seen his truck and John has pretty high standards, if it was good enough for his discerning tastes I was sure I'd be happy. Once again, new bearings installed flange to flange and the 'hacker' specified Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube installed.

• The wheels on the truck are true ZR-1 Replicas manufactured by the exact company that made the wheels for GM for the ZR1 corvettes. I purchased them and installed them I also had the custom center cap vinyl made to match the truck (guess I should've had them made out of RUST COLORED vinyl ?) The wheels were manufactured and chrome plated with the correct method of chrome plating. The day I sold the truck they looked just as brilliant as the day I bought them. The wheels were/are manufactured the company called OE Concepts.

In closing its quite apparent you expected something different, I don't know (or care for that matter) what your discussions were with the person in GA when you were wrangling to buy the truck.. A used car is a USED car, irregardless of whether its a collector, muscle car, or a run of the mill newer car just coming off lease/trade. Its quite simply "BUYER BEWARE", apparently you didn't ask enough questions or ask for enough photos before loading up and driving across the country to get the truck. I guess live and learn, hopefully you learned something from the experience that you can apply towards future vehicle purchases.

Your flaming posts about calling T-Bone "Tbag" and attacking the owner of the truck in GA and making errant comments about his other vehicles and property only show your further ignorance. These comments and slanderous remarks do nothing to promote SyTy.net or for that matter anything intelligent. Grow up dude, you lost out because you didn't do adequate research.

Calling me a 'hack" when you truly have never met me or ever worked with me on ANYTHING further displays your ignorance. People that KNOW me and KNOW how I fix cars or machinery would never call me a hack, people that I have worked for and work on their cars wouldn't call me a hack either.. Once again you displayed your ignorance.

In closing I expect this post will be deleted or removed. I've said my peace so I could really care less about anything your going to respond with. I'll probably have more constructive conversations with my 4yo than I would talking to you.. I just hope your crybaby ass gets a chance to read it before it happens as you clearly have no clue what your talking about. More importantly, I hope you learned a lesson and decide to pull your head out of your ass when you go to buy the next vehicle whatever it may be.


T-bone, once again man, I apologize for crapping in your thread, I hope the truck is what you wanted and I hope that indeed it gives you years of fun service once you rectify the issues it needs. However if you get a chance to read this thread, check out the pictures on my gallery of the modifications that were made to the truck. I don't know what all you got with the deal but a history of the modifications were made for photographic evidence. Idiots like this jackass make me want to just delete the entire album so you may want to get the pictures soon, they can be seen here:

http://www.turbols6.com/gallery/LS6-Typhoon

 

[DaveP]

Re: TN grows again

[*]When I owned this truck the year I took it to Nationals not only did it win "BEST PAINT" but it also won "FASTEST STOCK" truck. Again this was some time ago but this isn't something every SyTy owner can claim.

My god, another narcissist. You're like the OP. Distort and Discredit to your advantage.

My truck was there too. (GB 01 Nats). You beat me in both categorizes. Big f ucking deal. There were only TWO trucks in "Stock". I didn't know we could run a 10 in 1 or ATR, or what ever you had, but you had something and call ourselves "stock". I don't remember your times but you were a full .5 faster than my purely stock truck. And over 15 years I've yet to see a stock-prom Ty run sub 14. Or what ever it was. So your not only a hack, but a cheater as well. Your "best paint" had to have been picked for the color, not the finish quality. Because even after 10 years it still sucked. Kia's have "Better Paint". And it quit running soon after the 01 Nats. Hasn't run since. People that know what they're doing can usually get it running eventually. You never did in what, 8 years?

You may not remember me, but I sure remember you. Handle of "I'll Blow You" or something like that. You had a hard time keeping your shit running. I knew I was crazy, and was probably going to be disappointed for considering a truck that had been owned by someone as inept as you were back in the .org days. But I gave it a shot. Everything I looked at on that ty was cobbled, wrong, broken, or missing. That was part of why it took me 6 hours to "pass". It took that long to come to the conclusion, no matter how I figured it, that it was hopeless to expect that POS to ever be something I could be happy with without spending in excess of $15,000! For that kind of money, there are much nicer units available.

That was the bottom line, and has been my theme through all three of these posts: This is just another crusty, rusty, modded, cobbled, POS. It is NOT a "nice typhoon". It is an origional aspen-coded ty sure, but it will never be an origional aspen ty. Too much is missing, gone, or modified. It can be restored yes, but it will never be Origional again. That can only happen once. And the price of 'restoration' far exceeds the value of the finished piece.

I still maintain this will end up being parted. As it should be.

 

[Quickstop [UK]]

Re: TN grows again

Wow.

opcorn:

 

[T-Bone]

Re: TN grows again

Sorry T-bone for crapping in your thread, I don't even know you but I felt obligated to respond. Most likely this post will get deleted by the ADMIN anyhow.. Who ever "DAVE P" is, he is apparently so full of himself that I wanted to speak my peace and tell him to quit his crybaby ranting and bitching and moaning and lastly a giant F*U*C*K YOU TO DAVE P !

Your flaming posts about calling T-Bone "Tbag" and attacking the owner of the truck in GA and making errant comments about his other vehicles and property only show your further ignorance. These comments and slanderous remarks do nothing to promote SyTy.net or for that matter anything intelligent. Grow up dude, you lost out because you didn't do adequate research.

Calling me a 'hack" when you truly have never met me or ever worked with me on ANYTHING further displays your ignorance. People that KNOW me and KNOW how I fix cars or machinery would never call me a hack, people that I have worked for and work on their cars wouldn't call me a hack either.. Once again you displayed your ignorance.

In closing I expect this post will be deleted or removed. I've said my peace so I could really care less about anything your going to respond with. I'll probably have more constructive conversations with my 4yo than I would talking to you.. I just hope your crybaby ass gets a chance to read it before it happens as you clearly have no clue what your talking about. More importantly, I hope you learned a lesson and decide to pull your head out of your ass when you go to buy the next vehicle whatever it may be.


T-bone, once again man, I apologize for crapping in your thread, I hope the truck is what you wanted and I hope that indeed it gives you years of fun service once you rectify the issues it needs. However if you get a chance to read this thread, check out the pictures on my gallery of the modifications that were made to the truck. I don't know what all you got with the deal but a history of the modifications were made for photographic evidence. Idiots like this jackass make me want to just delete the entire album so you may want to get the pictures soon, they can be seen here:

http://www.turbols6.com/gallery/LS6-Typhoon

Todd, I deleted some of your input regarding the Ty upgrades but listen, NO apologies are required by you. The one that needs to apologize for content in this thread most likely never will. Little did I know he was so upset at the world. People like this often go into shopping centers and start firing on innocent bystanders for no reason.....the only difference is that in this case, it is being done through cybernet. I have never met DaveP and before this thread, had no reason to question his mindset or motives but I do know people say irrational things when they are deeply hurt. $500 means nothing to me but maybe he lives hand to mouth and thus, is distraught by the loss :dunno:.

I appreciate your input. I know the truck is not showroom perfect but when I am done with it, I hope it will be capable of securing trophies with ease. The coilovers are a nice touch. The wheels are still in fantastic shape and will look awesome with new rubber. The interior is all there but just needs detailed. The rear gate is fine, as are the doors. Since the truck is gonna get the right color skin eventually, I can live with replacement fenders if need be. The upper rear area is not in catastrophic shape....it can be fixed and is not really THAT noticeable even today!! Look at the project Jeff Scott is embarking on transforming. In the end, I bet it will look steller.....and I trust this Aspen will too. Thanks for the detailed pics link. Wow, you really exerted some effort and money on the Ty.

I just was so happy to finally get an Aspen, I wanted to share the news with the community. Never intended to be "tooting my own horn.....oh yes > as an evangelical preacher" but I have learned someone - somewhere will always have issues and feel the need to express them on this forum and ruin the overall general spirit. I just looked at the truck again and am delighted.....I finally got an Aspen. WooHoo!!!!

 

[T-Bone]

Re: TN grows again

thats a nice ride t-bone. jamie

Hey, thanks buddy. Hoping you and Holli can secure a nice SyTy in the future too so we can increase the local gathering attendance some more. Had a blast recently and really enjoyed meeting you guys. If I can ever help you out, let me know.

 

[syclone (F)]

Re: TN grows again

nice a Aspen Ty

I have always wanted a "real" Aspen Ty; finally secured one and just got home. The truck is in remarkable shape and a couple thumbs up on the road (and a compliment at a fuel station regarding "the blazer") made the trip more satisfying. I thought it might be in questionable shape other than described but Mike was very straightforward and I was met with absolutely NO surprises. Love it when a plan comes together. It will require some work and $$$ but I hope to have it right back to what it should look like by years end so I can enjoy driving it :thumbsup:

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: TN grows again

How's that trailer tow empty and looks like the lawn needs a mow

 

[mattw]

Re: TN grows again

I just read this whole thread. Sounds to me like the way to settle this for sure is for T-Bone to post the pics that Dave mentioned. My guess is that the truck is a total POS. I just hope that T-Bone got it cheap..

 

[wheels]

Re: TN grows again

I just read this whole thread. Sounds to me like the way to settle this for sure is for T-Bone to post the pics that Dave mentioned. My guess is that the truck is a total POS. I just hope that T-Bone got it cheap..

Whats to settle? Who cares. Even if it is a "POS", it would be his POS, and he likes it. I didn't know every truck had to pass syty.net quality control to be accepted.

 

[QWERTYphoon]

Re: TN grows again

I am with DaveP on this one. Even if his business trip took him there for free the seller clearly stated the truck was in better condition than it was. DaveP knows his shit, I have met him and he is a class act. T-bag has been nothing but problems for a lot of people. I would not believe anything this guy is saying. He is been bad for this community for parting out perfectly good trucks, called us all names and left the forum, only to return selling parts and looking for help. T-bag you are a cancer to this community! Post the pictures that DaveP requested and let us see who knows what they are talking about!

Sounds like somebody still owes somebody $500, pay up BEE-YOTCH!

 

[T-Bone]

Re: TN grows again

I am with DaveP on this one. Post the pictures that DaveP requested and let us see who knows what they are talking about!

Ask and you shall receive.....I am not the dirt bag you and a couple others claim and yes, I parted 1 (one) good truck. My wife doesn't like yard ornaments so I did what made the most sense....enjoy the pics. IMO, DaveP is not the expert he wants to lead everyone to believe he is. No doubt he knows alot but to trash an innocent buyer and previous owners because of a beef he has with someone else over $500 is just silly.....seriously .

The rear roof bleeding through and ready to collapse (you need to look real close):

The rotted out PS door he put his finger through. What he inserted his finger in was probably a factory drainage hole shown in the third pic :yes:

Maybe he was confused since he drove 1000 miles and it was in fact the DS door....see next thread.

 

[T-Bone]

Re: TN grows again

....the DS door (thanks to DaveP, now I see I need to buy some plastic door panel retainer clips. Guess I should have passed on the truck)

oh yes, the tailgate is cancer ridden too, right........well, you be the judge.

Let's go deep on the underside.....

Again, don't know what he saw. maybe it was japanese beetles he thought was rust :dunno: but the pics don't lie.

Now, DaveP, why don't you post me a pic of your concours Sy, Ty, or whatever you own. In the meantime, I have to get this cobbled, butchered, pieced together rust pile off my trailer. I ain't mad at ya.....just not understanding the hatred you feel towards those associated with this Ty. Life is too short to make issues with people over material stuff because when you die, it is ALL staying behind. A simple apology would go a looooooong way.

 

[T-Bone]

Re: TN grows again

I just read this whole thread. Sounds to me like the way to settle this for sure is for T-Bone to post the pics that Dave mentioned. My guess is that the truck is a total POS. I just hope that T-Bone got it cheap..

Pics are posted and yes, I got it fairly cheap. Maybe your guess will be altered now since I provided proof of the trucks condition. Contrary to what has been posted, Mike is a pretty cool guy. I hate it he is being maligned over $500 but trust me, there are 2 sides to every story.