Please help me with my build!!!
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NecroWolf
lost marbles member
Re: Please help me with my build!!!
check with our vendors on getting a custom cam grin, give'em a call with all the specs you have and ask them to spec it out for you, i'm sure you won't be dissapionted. i'm not sure on the barry grant fuel pump you have, i think the big areomotive 1101 is the one everyone seems to use. if that t66 turbo is a knock off you might be buying junk. you'll need a downpipe made to match it. as far as tuning it, the best you'r gonna do is learn to tune it yourself. there are seceral people on her that can setup a pretty good chip, but you'd be better off buying an emulation setup and learning how to do it yourself.
check with our vendors on getting a custom cam grin, give'em a call with all the specs you have and ask them to spec it out for you, i'm sure you won't be dissapionted. i'm not sure on the barry grant fuel pump you have, i think the big areomotive 1101 is the one everyone seems to use. if that t66 turbo is a knock off you might be buying junk. you'll need a downpipe made to match it. as far as tuning it, the best you'r gonna do is learn to tune it yourself. there are seceral people on her that can setup a pretty good chip, but you'd be better off buying an emulation setup and learning how to do it yourself.
turbodig
Active member
Re: Please help me with my build!!!
I'm gonna inject a bit of reality here:
You wrote:
One thing you need to realize here, is that the number of 10 second SyTys is likely under 100, and maybe under 75. The goal you set for yourself is not an easy one, and it's a goal with a lot of $$, and more than a few broken parts. Ask the guys that are/have been there.
100 miles/week is 5200 miles/year, which is a lot more than most stock trucks get. You're talking about something that runs among the best (keeping in mind that the number of low 10 second or faster trucks is very small).
I really think you need to re-evaluate your goals. What you have for a motor build plan isn't an awful idea, but I don't think it's reasonable to ask the times you're looking for with what you're spending. Low 11s, maybe, with a 10 squeaked in on a perfect day, maybe.
Make sure, though, that you deck the block flush with the TRWs. This should be less than
a $100 operation by any good machine shop. A .038-.040 thick head gasket gets you a decent quench that still has room for reliability on a hot day.
Depending on how much was shaved off the vortecs, this will give you around 9:1 CR (or pretty close, at least).
Talk to one of the vendors here about a cam - RPM, Campbell, Turbotime... they'll fix you up. Dan Strezo at DLS Engine does a nice cam as well.
As to your trans selection, I'll wish you good luck, and leave it at that.
Turbo- I find that you have to be *very* lucky to make a used turbo do what you want.
You'll be better off picking a turbo to meet your goals, and sticking with that. The 6776 BB will work well for you.
Tuning- With what you're trying to do, get the motor built and broke in, and take it to somebody. I know there are guys who do remote tunes (Nolan, others, I still do a few), but if you really want something good, the guy doing the tuning has to be in your truck. There's so much to feel/hear/smell that you can't do 1000s of miles away from the vehicle. Another option is have the tuner come to you (ie, you pay the plane ticket), but tuning is a time thing, and it's sometimes tough for people to be away long enough to do the job right.
(It also helps to be in your local area for familiarity reasons... when I do 'em, I make dozens of passes, and lots of driveability tests.
If you decide to take it someplace, Hood would be the closest guy to ya. You'd have to check with him for availability.
The other option is learn to do it yourself; many have already, and many more are learning.
www.code59.org will take you down that road.
Hopefully, that helps you make some decisions. If nothing else, knowing what's reasonable to expect might help a bit.
Later,
I'm gonna inject a bit of reality here:
You wrote:
One thing you need to realize here, is that the number of 10 second SyTys is likely under 100, and maybe under 75. The goal you set for yourself is not an easy one, and it's a goal with a lot of $$, and more than a few broken parts. Ask the guys that are/have been there.
100 miles/week is 5200 miles/year, which is a lot more than most stock trucks get. You're talking about something that runs among the best (keeping in mind that the number of low 10 second or faster trucks is very small).
I really think you need to re-evaluate your goals. What you have for a motor build plan isn't an awful idea, but I don't think it's reasonable to ask the times you're looking for with what you're spending. Low 11s, maybe, with a 10 squeaked in on a perfect day, maybe.
Make sure, though, that you deck the block flush with the TRWs. This should be less than
a $100 operation by any good machine shop. A .038-.040 thick head gasket gets you a decent quench that still has room for reliability on a hot day.
Depending on how much was shaved off the vortecs, this will give you around 9:1 CR (or pretty close, at least).
Talk to one of the vendors here about a cam - RPM, Campbell, Turbotime... they'll fix you up. Dan Strezo at DLS Engine does a nice cam as well.
As to your trans selection, I'll wish you good luck, and leave it at that.
Turbo- I find that you have to be *very* lucky to make a used turbo do what you want.
You'll be better off picking a turbo to meet your goals, and sticking with that. The 6776 BB will work well for you.
Tuning- With what you're trying to do, get the motor built and broke in, and take it to somebody. I know there are guys who do remote tunes (Nolan, others, I still do a few), but if you really want something good, the guy doing the tuning has to be in your truck. There's so much to feel/hear/smell that you can't do 1000s of miles away from the vehicle. Another option is have the tuner come to you (ie, you pay the plane ticket), but tuning is a time thing, and it's sometimes tough for people to be away long enough to do the job right.
(It also helps to be in your local area for familiarity reasons... when I do 'em, I make dozens of passes, and lots of driveability tests.
If you decide to take it someplace, Hood would be the closest guy to ya. You'd have to check with him for availability.
The other option is learn to do it yourself; many have already, and many more are learning.
www.code59.org will take you down that road.
Hopefully, that helps you make some decisions. If nothing else, knowing what's reasonable to expect might help a bit.
Later,
Tooky
Serious about performance
Re: Please help me with my build!!!
I also agree 100% with what Dig just posted above ("injection of reality"). I would take it to heart.
Agreed 100%. To have a really fast SyTy (there are only a small amount) you need to become the master of your truck's tune.NecroWolf said:
I also agree 100% with what Dig just posted above ("injection of reality"). I would take it to heart.
Injected1
Member
Re: Please help me with my build!!!
Thanks guys, I guess that I will just change my thinking alltogether and go for a low to mid 11 sec truck. I would like to know who this "Hood" that you speak of is because I will be needing him in the "hopefully" near future. I did a member search and couldn't find him. I would like to thank "turbodig" personally for all your help and will soon be updating and posting pics of the build. Oh one more thing, how do I know how much to deck the block and can it be done with the pistons still in the block? Just got off the phone with Waller and he said to run a 415 if I am "not tryring to set the world on fire"!! That being the case I am calling Mike at RPM right now to order it. Any other help please feel free to share. THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!
Thanks guys, I guess that I will just change my thinking alltogether and go for a low to mid 11 sec truck. I would like to know who this "Hood" that you speak of is because I will be needing him in the "hopefully" near future. I did a member search and couldn't find him. I would like to thank "turbodig" personally for all your help and will soon be updating and posting pics of the build. Oh one more thing, how do I know how much to deck the block and can it be done with the pistons still in the block? Just got off the phone with Waller and he said to run a 415 if I am "not tryring to set the world on fire"!! That being the case I am calling Mike at RPM right now to order it. Any other help please feel free to share. THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!
turbodig
Active member
Re: Please help me with my build!!!
A block deck is a machine shop operation... not something that you do with the engine assembled.
Since yours apparently is, get a thinner head gasket. Like an .020 Cometic.
Mike Hood. Tucker Auto Parts, in the vendors below. He can hook you up with the 415, too!
Injected1 said:
A block deck is a machine shop operation... not something that you do with the engine assembled.
Since yours apparently is, get a thinner head gasket. Like an .020 Cometic.
Mike Hood. Tucker Auto Parts, in the vendors below. He can hook you up with the 415, too!