PAS inspection sheets....

warmpancakes

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Re: PAS inspection sheets....

tony and I were discussing earlier alot of the pas guys would have been 30s-40s at the time so they are 50-60 now we need to track them down before its too late
 

--SyTy Jim--

GAST Member
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x2...I'd like to have something like this for my Ty if it's out there for the finding.

x3 I would LOVE a set of these for my Syclone and Typhoon! Will they ever be released to us to get/buy?

Also, are these different than the 'build sheets' that someone has, that was brought up a few years back?

Like someone said before...brings up more questions than answers...either way this is GREAT news...hope more 'documents' like this come up. :tup:


Jimmy
 

turboj91

New member
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Thanks Ken & Tony. Reviewed the sheets quickly. Will do so more in depth with my magnifying glass for that one page that has very small printing. The mag. glass is in the other room with the felt tip tweezers.

Anyway, on the subject of the back glass. I know some exist but obviously we all do not have it. A few ideas on this. I can't imagine that a truck rolled out without back glass. I can't imagine that someone designated that Sy's get gold glass and then only some actually get the install. I'll go with Dig on that they grabbed what was available when the vehicle was at that point (it happens more often than you would think). With this in mind, what was the original application where gold glass was specified. There had to be some at the plant for someone to grab. What possible S-10 series truck specified gold glass and for what purpose. Gold tint is an odd ball for early 90's but there had to be an "engineering" reason.

I see exhaust manifolds and downpipe and studs on the list. By the Ty video, these were on the engine when it was on the line but not yet in the vehicle so PAS just checked to make sure they were there and not some regular LB4 140hp stuff. Seems they had to make sure it was really going through as a full blown Sy. Guess they had great faith in the line (haha).

Sequence and VIN have no relation. The vehicle is produced and goes outside and waits for transportation. I think is has been discussed without question that these trucks were produced on the line with regular production S series trucks. One here, one there. That's why we have production dates that range over the year. So it goes out into the lot and waits. They don't get transported in the same order they came out the door. PAS tags the vehicle when it gets to their place. First come, first serve. The following can also be a factor. They get driven onto the transporter. In what order? Don't think a driver looked at VIN's to load in a certain order, just looked to make sure he had the correct truck. They get off loaded and parked. The PAS employee must tag them with a sequence #. Again, first come first serve. They did not go around looking for VIN's to match to their sequence #'s. Time is money and these guys don't have time to think that much.

Who had the jig to drill on a Sy for the cladding. By the Ty video, GM did the Ty's.

PAS makes notes for poor fitment. Guess they noted it and never did anything about it. There's that time is money thing again, Too much time to have a redo or adjustment for fitment. It's on, it's tight, get it out the door.

Thanks again Ken & Tony.
 

Beavis

Still plays with trucks
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Not sure if this matters, but didn't some Cadillacs and Lincolns have gold tint on some of the glass?
 

tydye

Banned
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so if the sequence number is the build number and the last 4 isnt the production number someone has some major work correcting things eh? or is this jumping the gun a tad?
 

Number219GT

Broke Status
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I have some input on the "gold tint" agrument. This past summer I met a guy with a really nice, immaculate 91' Sonoma ST. I talked to him for a bit, and as he was driving away i noticed the rear glass had a gold-ish tint to it. So it could've either been stock or he could have installed it himself. I doubt he did that, the truck looked too clean to mess with. I wish i would've noticed before he left, so i could've asked... So in my belief the "gold" tint was a 91' thing. Maybe on trucks with a certain rpo code. just my :2cents:
 

13Pelle

Active member
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Thanks Ken & Tony. Reviewed the sheets quickly. Will do so more in depth with my magnifying glass for that one page that has very small printing. The mag. glass is in the other room with the felt tip tweezers.

I you need a better copy of that page let me know. I can send you one with a higher resolution. Should make it easier to blow up and see. LMK....

I have some input on the "gold tint" agrument. This past summer I met a guy with a really nice, immaculate 91' Sonoma ST. I talked to him for a bit, and as he was driving away i noticed the rear glass had a gold-ish tint to it. So it could've either been stock or he could have installed it himself. I doubt he did that, the truck looked too clean to mess with. I wish i would've noticed before he left, so i could've asked... So in my belief the "gold" tint was a 91' thing. Maybe on trucks with a certain rpo code. just my :2cents:

Whoever has gold glass (stock glass obviously) post up their RPO codes....lets see of there is something to it. Can't hurt to look into it some more.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
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so if the sequence number is the build number and the last 4 isnt the production number someone has some major work correcting things eh? or is this jumping the gun a tad?

For Syclone's, I bet they were put on GM Shreveport assembly line in order of the VIN's and for the most part came off in order (perhaps a manufacturing defect would have a few exceptions) They were next put on a transporter and delivered to PAS.

Next, I assume they were put in to a waiting parking lot before they were grabbed by a PAS employee to finish them. From the time they left the GM assembly line to being deliver by PAS, their was plently of opportunity to mix up the squential order of the VIN's
 

warmpancakes

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How about this: The gold glass is a manufacturing variance. S.


Is that a fancy term for screw up?:rotf: But from some rooting it appears the gold tint glass was offered on luxury package s-series 4x4 only, WTF is a luxury package? Buddy in parts said it appears on the s10 baja and the durango package god I hate these trucks :rant:
 

warmpancakes

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OK. Give me the Part Number for this "special" glass. It ( a P/N) doesn't exist. Or the source of this "rooting". If there isn't a P/N, it's just an anomaly, regardless of what people are guessing.



FINE! Make him prove it with documentation. Like the P/N for the glass that is included with the RPO for Baja or Durango.


working on it , its labeled as "bronze" I need to find a baja extended cab vin :(
this should be fun or a s10 durango extended cab VIN
 

Beavis

Still plays with trucks
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OK, i started looking at some pics i have from our Homecoming events and can say some sy have a goldish/bronze hue to the back windows.
Some that i noticed are....
Brains gun metal grey in ohio
Jabbers sy before it was "satin" (formerly known as hammer sy)
Riches Blue Flamed sy (hard to notice because of extra tint)
Brandon from Penn
Tims "syclone1992"
Kens sy too (back when it still ran and was 100% assembled unlike the last 8+ years)
Some have it some dont. Saudis have straight pure glass. Someone should check the differences between rpo's for them and standard sy's for the glass......
 

13Pelle

Active member
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The Saudi's were regular Syclones that got converted after/changed their initial completion....right?
 

Beavis

Still plays with trucks
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The Saudi's were regular Syclones that got converted after/changed their initial completion....right?

Biult to go to saudi, then came back and converted to US standards. Not sure what the rpo's were for exports. Maybe diff maybe not. But since they were biult to leave, the rpo should reflect diff glass? Thats the big Q here.....
 

warmpancakes

New member
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Someone should check the differences between rpo's for them and standard sy's for the glass......


Im working on it also doing some research on saudi trucks to see if GM knew they were going overseas before they left the plant
Normal sys have a UP8 code for the radio, im trying to find a saudi sy VIN to see what their radio code is,

The sy VIN im looking at is RPO code AJ1 for the glass deep tint

It also hase option code YC2 for "luxury"
 

warmpancakes

New member
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Biult to go to saudi, then came back and converted to US standards. Not sure what the rpo's were for exports. Maybe diff maybe not. But since they were biult to leave, the rpo should reflect diff glass? Thats the big Q here.....



Im trying to figure out if GM knew they were export before they left or PAS said we have these here use them
 

13Pelle

Active member
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Biult to go to saudi, then came back and converted to US standards. Not sure what the rpo's were for exports. Maybe diff maybe not. But since they were biult to leave, the rpo should reflect diff glass? Thats the big Q here.....

I was under the impression that they were regular Syclones that were then converted to Saudi's and then reverted once they came back for North Amerian use.
 

warmpancakes

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I was under the impression that they were regular Syclones that were then converted to Saudi's and then reverted once they came back for North Amerian use.


That been the belief but if I can get the rpo codes well know for sure


some oddball codes ive found so far


VXT Incomplete vehicle

9l3 spare tire delete
 

13Pelle

Active member
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Ryan is getting me a pic of his RPO codes. I might go by his Sy tonight on my way to the Wings game and look for myself. ;)
 
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