No Compression in # 2

KDBL1TY

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Hey Guys ! Engine is coming out this weekend for a rebuild. Got a question though. What would cause absolutely no compression in # 2. Put oil into # 2 to check rings. Others are 160ish. This has been a crappy summer drove the TY only a few times. It has never been down this long.
 

KDBL1TY

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Re: No Compression in # 2

All started after having a new cap welded on upper ic resovior.(spelling error) . Inner core was leaking sucked water into engine. Runs strong as hell jus huffying and smoking. Its reading zero.
 

WyoSyclone

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Re: No Compression in # 2

Might pull the valve covers off and see if you have a broken valve spring, or retainer problem
 

KDBL1TY

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Re: No Compression in # 2

Pulled covers springs visually checked out. Tried moving springs side to side.Retainer? Please elaborate. Would a leak down test give me a definitive answer. Pressure moving past valves = no compression in clyinder.
 

WyoSyclone

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Re: No Compression in # 2

Pulled covers springs visually checked out. Tried moving springs side to side.Retainer? Please elaborate. Would a leak down test give me a definitive answer. Pressure moving past valves = no compression in clyinder.

Well, if you had a broken spring it would be obvious - that valve would be sitting low. Sounds like the valve spring retainer is OK too... sounds like you're just going to be pulling the head off - really no other option... :(
 

WyoSyclone

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Re: No Compression in # 2

No go on leak down test ?

Well, regardless of what a leak-down or compression test tells you, I think you're kind of stuck with not having any compression in that cylinder.... removing the head will tell you what you're up against
 

blk00z28

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Re: No Compression in # 2

Broken ring land would still support some pressure in the cylinder for a short period of time. It would just read low until it leaked out.

If its zero, then its a hole in the piston, a hole in a valve, a valve is hanging open. There isn't to much more..

I'd just pull the motor anyway.
 

KDBL1TY

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Re: No Compression in # 2

Thanks was thinking same with rings supporting some pressure! Will be trying a leak down before i start tearing into it. Thanks again.
 

blk00z28

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Re: No Compression in # 2

If you take the valve covers off again, take a rubber hammer and pop the springs for that cylinder. Don't tap them to hard, but enough to push the spring down and open the valves. Retest the compression. You will hear it leaking around the valve if its a head problem. If you hear nothing and it still has no compression pull the head at least.

Believe me, get right to it that way you know what you need to replace and you might be able to do it fast.
 

turboj91

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Re: No Compression in # 2

Try what the previous post said first. If you do a leak down, a valve problem will let air up to the tb and to the exhaust if it happens to be a problem with the intake and exhaust valves respectively. If it is a hole in the piston, the air will go directly to the lower end and then come out up top (into valve cover) so you'll hear the air escaping there. As mentioned, a broken ring would hold some compression. I can assume that you are at WOT when doing the compression test since the other 5 are all on the same level with each other. Absolute zero in a cylinder - I would plan for the worst and say it is a piston. Even if the exhaust valve was hung open to the point that all air immediately escapes, I would assume that the piston would hit that valve and stop in its rotation.
 

KDBL1TY

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Re: No Compression in # 2

Yeah will get back on it friday,got class in a few hours. Pulling the valve cover and starting from there. The no compression had me ! Started thinking about valves not seating or stuck open. Thanks again. It always helps to have another perspective.
 

pinellas50

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Re: No Compression in # 2

I have had zero compression in a cylinder before. It ended up that BOTH of the rocker studs pulled out of the head so neither valve was opening.
 

KDBL1TY

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Re: No Compression in # 2

Completed a leakdown test. Got air sounds in dip stick. Rebuild time. Kinda sucks.
 

KDBL1TY

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Re: No Compression in # 2

Finally tearing engine down. Wrist pin on piston # 2 walked its way out destroying bore. URL=http://s879.photobucket.com/albums/ab360/KDBL1TY/?action=view&current=09-25-09_0841.jpg]
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KDBL1TY

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Re: No Compression in # 2

1st time posting a picture. Explains the compression then no compression. Rest of engine components perfect. Coating present on other pistons. Well the mystery is solved.
 
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