KB air intake vs. Stock crossover setup

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djsan67n808

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does the kb air inake make a big difference then the stock.. my stock pipe cracked and i need to replace as soon as can.... and its really hard to find someone that has a crossover pipe for sell ... where can i get the kb intake setup?
 
Flyin Ryan

Flyin Ryan

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Re: KB air intake vs. Stock crossover setup

djsan67n808 said:
does the kb air inake make a big difference then the stock.. my stock pipe cracked and i need to replace as soon as can.... and its really hard to find someone that has a crossover pipe for sell ... where can i get the kb intake setup?
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not sure how much hp more the kb kit would give over stock but most people just make there own kits or mount a cone filter in the pass fender.

as for the kb kit.. I know kb still offers a catologue for sytys so give them a call.
 
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Lynn D. Brown

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If U can truly isolate your inlet from engine heat and lower the temperature of the inlet air, it can have some effect. If we could get some temperatures between the stock setup vs these alternate setups, the difference can be easily calculated. I'm not aware that anyone has this data. I will be putting in a Pass side K&N one of these days and will publish whatever I find out.
 
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Matthew Little

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I have a little data about it,my truck had the kb on it when I got it and I made a ram air for it(which helped loads),don't know about the stock setup,but remember reading somewhere that the stock x-over pipe only flows xxx,can't remember exactly,but was low enough to govern the truck. Mine is isolated as good as it can be and still have the filter in the engine compartment. All my info is from this last summer, and what I have is kb intake vs kb intake with ram air.
 
hideakimura

hideakimura

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Here you go djsan67n808...

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typhoon92

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can anyone tell me where to get this kennebell setup? and how much this setup cost?

thanks,
sam

92 ty #0438
 
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Lynn D. Brown

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Cold Air

Cold Air

If U relocate your battery, U can make your own with a Cobra elbow and just one turn to the Pass side fender and a 4" K&N.

Much less restrictive - that's what I'm doing.
 
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Sy769

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With the KB installed you can hear the turbo better.

I have one I had on my Sy for a few thousand miles. Might sell it.
 
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smeagol

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The KB kit isn't worth it. The canister cover setup in the fenderwell WILL cost you HP as it chokes off air. People have removed it and gained power at the strip.

Getting cold air at the cost of a more restrictive intake is worthless.

After years of going through this crap, there are 2 solutions (IMO). Go search out every truck that goes fast... chances are they'll run one of the two following setups

1- cone filter on the end of the stock crossover pipe

if you are willing to do a bit more work:

2- relocate your battery somehow, turn orange turbo hose towards passenger fenderwell and put a cone filter there. If you do an aftermarket turbo setup, chances are you'll have to do this anyways.

There is no magic cold air kit that will work better than either of these.
 
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QUIKSUV

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I can't argue with smeagol as he obviously has lots of experience. I can only tell you of my experience. I was curious of whether the KB was hurting performance so I did a test.

I think the KB kit is good. I calculated the inlet opening of the air filter housing vs. the inlet opening on the turbo, for me a 3" PTE60. The stocker is smaller, 2.25" or 2.5", I don't remember. The inlet opening is more than adequate (I would have to dig up the calcs). I blocked off the opening in the fenderwell by the heater motor so no hot air could enter there. I sealed around the filter housing with weatherstrip. The opening underneath the truck is where the opening is actually smaller, but still OK.

I ran with and without the filter housing and found no difference in performance other than the open filter sounded cool and it allowed more hot air to enter. I based this on looking at WB O2 data and checking the A/F ratio at WOT. If the KB housing was restrictive, it should have read richer than the open filter (less air). No changes were required with my Blitz boost controller and the boost pressure was the same. The filter in the housing definitely lowered the IAT in normal driving. I am talking about driving your truck on the street vs the strip. The back-to-back Datamaster files were close to identical.

I have kept the filter housing on and plan to run a hose from the open driving light hole to the fenderwell when I find a usable hose that fits.

One guy's experience.
 
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djsan67n808

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ohh i c...... thanks smeagol... just one question... looks like it always comes down to street or strip.. what would you think would be better for street.... stock pipe with kn filter at the end or the kb intake?
 
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