Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

ndburli

New member
Hey guys...as I continue my search to find a good DD I wanted some opinions from some guys who have experience with these trucks/suvs. I am starting a new job and with that I am looking for a daily driver. I do not want some boring vehicle to scoot around in. I am keeping my options open and looking thru the forums here for trucks for sale. In your opinions what would be the best daily driver (and yes I understand most of these trucks are on jack stands so leave the punditry out! ;)

1.Sy
2.Ty
3.Sonoma GT
4.Sonoma GT (LS1 swap)
5.None of the above! haha

I really appreciate the help!

Nate
 
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

One thing you may want to factor in is your size. Were you comftorable in your Syclone, or do you think you would be better off in a TY?
 

BigBadSmoosh

Picking fights on I-65 since 2013
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

new job + syty as daily driver = getting fired for not being able to make it to work.

get something reliable.. sonoma gt would work.
 

SYO237

SyTy Registry
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

Reliable: SGT. Comfort: Ty. Making it to work early (fast): Sy.
 

killa66cam

RIDIN DIRTY
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

I would vote SGT for reliability...SGT with LS1 if you buy it running, or can do the work in short order. Otherwise, you may never finish the swap.

Cam
 

Icarus-54

Donating Old Member
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

My dd is my teal gt,20+ on gas,handles like a roller skate and its comfortable.Cant say that about my sy or the other 2 tys.Plus its plenty quick.
 

sy113

Donating Member
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

If you live further than one mile from work, Sonoma GT all the way.
 

ndburli

New member
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

I appreciate the responses. I was thinking a SGT is probably the best route to take but I needed some people with some knowledge to confirm! I will be about 6 miles from work so that is not terribly bad. I will be working in a mechanical/body shop so that helps too. All that being said I will probably have to decide between a SGT (2 seats) or a Ty (more seats is better). Who knows...I guess I could always look at the Ford Lightning (It has 3 seats in front) :wrong:
 

Baythan

SY2TY2SY2TY
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

Only 6 miles??? Any one of the trucks, well maintained, would be fine. If you worked 30 miles from work, slightly different story (re: mpg)
 

Icarus-54

Donating Old Member
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

needed some people with some knowledge to confirm!--quote

What do you need,someone to draw you a map?
 

DaveP

Active member
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

you're right. A SyTy can be reliable if not modded.
 
Last edited:

SYO237

SyTy Registry
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

Agree with DaveP

My ex Ty 1011 was bone stock. Bought it with around 82k on it. Other than the basic reliability upgrades, I just did the routine maintenance on it. Drove it daily everywhere. At one point for a few months I was doing over 150 miles per day, 5 days a week. Didnt drive it super hard, but didnt drive like a grandpa either.

I sold it at close to 125k. It was the most reliable truck I have ever owned out of the bunch. Never gave me one prob. Wish I never sold it.
 

ziembic

Donating Member
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

No, you're right. A SyTy can be reliable if not modded. Here's my exhibit:

I have a 93 Typhoon that was purchased by a close friend in 1997, then driven lightly and locally for 14 years, and maintained by myself during that time. I've now owned in for 2 years, and have driven it cross country and back twice with no serious malfunctions. I've put a blower motor and an a/c compressor in it. That's pretty much it in 22K miles.

It for the most part has suffered the same failures that all S/T series suffer. Heater core, alternators, water pump, accessory drive maladies, etc. The engine has never been out or worked on other than valve stem seals. The spark plugs currently in it were installed in 2001. The Delco wires in 1997. Transmission was done 2 years ago for the first time. It wore out the forward clutch. It didn't break.

So yes, a Typhoon can be "reliable". In our case, I believe the success has a lot to do with the way it has been driven (carefully and lightly) and maintained (by someone that knows what he's doing, and prefers to leave the hood closed), and only "fix" things that need fixing, not a bunch of "feel good", or "reliability mods" that IMO are detrimental to reliability.

Find and purchase a "good one", drive it carefully (rather than like a Dodge Avenger at Nats auto-x), fix it as things go wrong, and it will serve you well.

Agree with DaveP

My ex Ty 1011 was bone stock. Bought it with around 82k on it. Other than the basic reliability upgrades, I just did the routine maintenance on it. Drove it daily everywhere. At one point for a few months I was doing over 150 miles per day, 5 days a week. Didnt drive it super hard, but didnt drive like a grandpa either.

I sold it at close to 125k. It was the most reliable truck I have ever owned out of the bunch. Never gave me one prob. Wish I never sold it.

I agree with both of these guys. My day bought my Ty new. He proceeded to put 185K miles on it before it needed anything. Tune ups, oil changes and preventive maint. were all it took. He then lostthe trans, then motor and turbo within about 5K miles. Put in a jasper rebuild, rebuld trans, stock turbo, and went another 90k. He sold it to me, and before I even drove it, I installed PTE45, downpipe... and so on. He sold it to me with about 270k on it. It now has about 273K or so on it.... in over 10 years.
 

ndburli

New member
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

No, you're right. A SyTy can be reliable if not modded. Here's my exhibit:

I have a 93 Typhoon that was purchased by a close friend in 1997, then driven lightly and locally for 14 years, and maintained by myself during that time. I've now owned in for 2 years, and have driven it cross country and back twice with no serious malfunctions. I've put a blower motor and an a/c compressor in it. That's pretty much it in 22K miles.

It for the most part has suffered the same failures that all S/T series suffer. Heater core, alternators, water pump, accessory drive maladies, etc. The engine has never been out or worked on other than valve stem seals. The spark plugs currently in it were installed in 2001. The Delco wires in 1997. Transmission was done 2 years ago for the first time. It wore out the forward clutch. It didn't break.

So yes, a Typhoon can be "reliable". In our case, I believe the success has a lot to do with the way it has been driven (carefully and lightly) and maintained (by someone that knows what he's doing, and prefers to leave the hood closed), and only "fix" things that need fixing, not a bunch of "feel good", or "reliability mods" that IMO are detrimental to reliability.

Find and purchase a "good one", drive it carefully (rather than like a Dodge Avenger at Nats auto-x), fix it as things go wrong, and it will serve you well.

This has made my day....so there is hope for a SyTy being a DD!:tup:
 

InvisiBill

Active member
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

I agree that a stock truck can be fairly reliable. I bought 1456 with 77k, completely stock (paper air filter and one of the original headlights even). I did a few minor mods to it, like heater hose IC lines and a boost gauge. I tweaked the stock chip a bit (disabled EGR, lowered some temps a bit to match the lower thermostat), but I never changed the fueling or timing. I was averaging over 30k a year for a few years. I took it to the strip a couple times and enjoyed the acceleration (so it wasn't completely babied), but a lot of it was simply highway cruising miles.

At 120k the transmission went. I wasn't doing anything other than "regular driving" when it happened. The odometer died around 180k, but I figure it was over 200k when the engine blew (again, just cruising home from a friend's house). I also had the front diff go - not sure exactly what happened, but the right axle was able to come out a bit, which led to losing the oil in the diff). I also had all the standard S-truck accessories that DaveP mentioned fail on me at one time or another. Also the fuel pump and starter, as seems to be fairly common on these. A big pothole ate both front wheels.

Compared to the horror stories I had heard here, I considered it to be pretty reliable. However, I had never owned a new car, and my '93 S-10 was the newest thing I had owned when I picked up the Sy in '01. It was almost the newest, and I believe it was the lowest mileage, vehicle I had ever owned. Now that I've been driving a Cobalt (purchased brand new) for 4.5 years, I realize just how much work it was. I've changed the tires, oil, air filter, and wipers on the Cobalt. The shocks will need to be replaced soon (apparently they're now considered a 50k maintenance item) and the shifter lost a bolt connecting to the linkage (covered under warranty), but I've done literally nothing else to it. Granted I'm driving a lot less (only at 66k after 4.5 years), but I'd consider it to be 100% reliable and hassle-free.

I spent a fair amount of time doing maintenance and small repairs on the Sy. I was never really worried to take it anywhere, but it also didn't really surprise me when it had problems. Especially for a fairly short commute, it could be doable as a DD. However, I spent a lot of money and used up a lot of 1456's life just cruising back and forth on the highway. I think I would've been happier with a cheap DD (like I have now) and using the Sy only for fun driving. I wouldn't have had as many late Sunday night repair sessions because I needed it to get to work Monday morning. I wouldn't have spent nearly as much on consumable parts and gas. At least I spent a lot of time driving 1456 (which a lot of people can't say about their trucks), but I feel a lot of those miles were "wasted" rather than "enjoyed".

0187 needs some little finishing touches before I'll consider it as reliable as 1456 was. I've been away from SyTy wrenching for so long and the Ninja is so much easier and cheaper to work on, that I'm still on the tank of gas that I put in 0187 the day it was dropped off here in March. I missed the SyTy driving experience, but I definitely didn't miss all the time spent under it.
 

Logan

Member
Re: Daily Driver Help-Sy/Ty/SGT

I will drive my Ty anywhere. Granted, it took me a year of work to get it there and I am not 100% trusting of any vehicle but she hasn't stranded me yet. I do agree that of the 3 options an SGT would be the best bet as it is a "less moving parts" situation.
 
Top