Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
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BigBadSmoosh
Picking fights on I-65 since 2013
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
yes it is
yes it is
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
UPDATE: I picked up a new tranny from Dennis (Thanks again Dennis, comes through for the second time), and now i want to prep it for the install. since the tranny has been outside (moisture), what should i do/ have done, to prep it for the install. Thanks
UPDATE: I picked up a new tranny from Dennis (Thanks again Dennis, comes through for the second time), and now i want to prep it for the install. since the tranny has been outside (moisture), what should i do/ have done, to prep it for the install. Thanks
George Blake
DONATING MEMBER
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
Trannies that sit outside will be FILLED with rust. Big thing, valvebody. Sit the valvebody in a clean trans pan and sprag a whole bottle of liquid wrench or pb blast. Let it sit for a while. After that take several cans of carbureter cleaner and spray it, spray it, hit it with compressed air, spray it again. Take the pressure regulator valve lineup out of the pump and spray it down. Look for the TV boost valve to be rusted to the sleeve.
While your dong all of this the trans should be lifted with an engine hoist by the bellhousing and just let it hang. All the fluid, water and everything will run out. Let it hange for a couple days.
The big problem is gonna be clutches. They are made of paper. Water contamination is bad when it gets to the clutches.
I've gone through this building "supposedly good" cores. I know what I'm talking about.It may have been good when it came out but after it sits outside, it may has well been a burnup. Best cores are ones just taken out of a wrecked vehicle. The body protects the trans from the elements.
When I say "take it easy on it" I'm saying if you put a non syty setup in it, just drive it easy and it'll do fine.
NJTy2008 said:
Trannies that sit outside will be FILLED with rust. Big thing, valvebody. Sit the valvebody in a clean trans pan and sprag a whole bottle of liquid wrench or pb blast. Let it sit for a while. After that take several cans of carbureter cleaner and spray it, spray it, hit it with compressed air, spray it again. Take the pressure regulator valve lineup out of the pump and spray it down. Look for the TV boost valve to be rusted to the sleeve.
While your dong all of this the trans should be lifted with an engine hoist by the bellhousing and just let it hang. All the fluid, water and everything will run out. Let it hange for a couple days.
The big problem is gonna be clutches. They are made of paper. Water contamination is bad when it gets to the clutches.
I've gone through this building "supposedly good" cores. I know what I'm talking about.It may have been good when it came out but after it sits outside, it may has well been a burnup. Best cores are ones just taken out of a wrecked vehicle. The body protects the trans from the elements.
When I say "take it easy on it" I'm saying if you put a non syty setup in it, just drive it easy and it'll do fine.
crazykaese
91ProtoTy/IndyPaceTribute & Sawzall Master
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
Well - if that one winds up being no good I have another spare one that wasn't sitting outside that he can try. The one I gave him is worth a try to get him up and running again. Thanx for the recommendations now how to clean that one out before using it. One of the two should do the trick for him hopefully.
Well - if that one winds up being no good I have another spare one that wasn't sitting outside that he can try. The one I gave him is worth a try to get him up and running again. Thanx for the recommendations now how to clean that one out before using it. One of the two should do the trick for him hopefully.
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
Then only thing is tho, I have no confidence in myself to work on a transmission. By just reading what he wrote, I would have no idea what these parts are when i open it up... I know abosultely nothing about transmissions, this makes this 100x's harder
dgoodhue said:
Then only thing is tho, I have no confidence in myself to work on a transmission. By just reading what he wrote, I would have no idea what these parts are when i open it up... I know abosultely nothing about transmissions, this makes this 100x's harder
Captain Morgan
Moderated User
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
well one things for sure, definately use the pan off your current transmission.
it doesnt really look too bad physically (after cleanup), but george should have a better idea. at least there was some trans fluid in there.
well one things for sure, definately use the pan off your current transmission.
it doesnt really look too bad physically (after cleanup), but george should have a better idea. at least there was some trans fluid in there.
George Blake
DONATING MEMBER
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
Spray PB blast on the input shaft and stator and clean them up with scotchbrite and then put a new o ring on the end of the input shaft. The pan looks nasty where it rained in it. The valvebody doesn't look bad from the outside but will have rust inside. If you had a choice between that one and one that was inside, I'd go with the one that was covered up or inside.
Spray PB blast on the input shaft and stator and clean them up with scotchbrite and then put a new o ring on the end of the input shaft. The pan looks nasty where it rained in it. The valvebody doesn't look bad from the outside but will have rust inside. If you had a choice between that one and one that was inside, I'd go with the one that was covered up or inside.
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
george it seemed like the water level in the bottom of the pan didn't get higher than the trans filter, would this make any sort of difference? I'm going to have to clean the input shaft, it looks pretty rough. But since the picture, I cleaned up the pan nicely and sprayed the bottom of the tranny with a little more carb cleaner and I didn't find any rust. Would this change any of your opinions?
George Blake said:
george it seemed like the water level in the bottom of the pan didn't get higher than the trans filter, would this make any sort of difference? I'm going to have to clean the input shaft, it looks pretty rough. But since the picture, I cleaned up the pan nicely and sprayed the bottom of the tranny with a little more carb cleaner and I didn't find any rust. Would this change any of your opinions?
George Blake
DONATING MEMBER
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
What will happen is moisture is drawn to the trans fluid. For some reason insects love the stuff also. The moisture will push the fluid away and the cast iron and steel components will get a rust coating. The problem will be wear the valves and everything sit. There is a channel there and all the moisture from inside the trans will run down through the valvebody and drip into the pan. It won't hurt anything to try it. It's just your time. If it doesn't work, pull it out and look for another. I'd go through the valvebody, governor, and the pressure regulator assembly and clean them though. If you take off the valvebody, PB blast it and let it sit, then douse it with carb cleaner and take a small flathead screwdrive and move the valves. Remember, it is a salvaged trans so don't get upset if it doesn't work. And if it does work, be VERY happy. Run the new fluid for about 500 miles and then change it out.
What will happen is moisture is drawn to the trans fluid. For some reason insects love the stuff also. The moisture will push the fluid away and the cast iron and steel components will get a rust coating. The problem will be wear the valves and everything sit. There is a channel there and all the moisture from inside the trans will run down through the valvebody and drip into the pan. It won't hurt anything to try it. It's just your time. If it doesn't work, pull it out and look for another. I'd go through the valvebody, governor, and the pressure regulator assembly and clean them though. If you take off the valvebody, PB blast it and let it sit, then douse it with carb cleaner and take a small flathead screwdrive and move the valves. Remember, it is a salvaged trans so don't get upset if it doesn't work. And if it does work, be VERY happy. Run the new fluid for about 500 miles and then change it out.
NJTy2008 said:
Tooky
Serious about performance
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
Wow!! Wish I could offer more to help, but I have to say that's quite a story of bad SyTy luck! Engine, trans, converter, converter... Sheesh. I don't know if it's any consolation but at this point it's safe to say you have proven you have "what it takes" to own a SyTy... look at how much effort you have put in already. I can't guarantee your solution is around the corner but with your motivation, there's nothing you can't fix with enough time. :thumbsup:
Wow!! Wish I could offer more to help, but I have to say that's quite a story of bad SyTy luck! Engine, trans, converter, converter... Sheesh. I don't know if it's any consolation but at this point it's safe to say you have proven you have "what it takes" to own a SyTy... look at how much effort you have put in already. I can't guarantee your solution is around the corner but with your motivation, there's nothing you can't fix with enough time. :thumbsup:
BigBadSmoosh
Picking fights on I-65 since 2013
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
he is trying to sell the truck, it is costing way to much to fix for a college student.
TookyCat said:
he is trying to sell the truck, it is costing way to much to fix for a college student.
George Blake
DONATING MEMBER
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
He got hit with a bad deal. It seems a lot of bad luck for just daily driving. Sounds like he paid too much for it if it was in that bad of shape mechanically.
He got hit with a bad deal. It seems a lot of bad luck for just daily driving. Sounds like he paid too much for it if it was in that bad of shape mechanically.
BigBadSmoosh
Picking fights on I-65 since 2013
Re: Truck won't move, TC or Tranny?
I think it was really just bad luck, when morgan sold it the truck was running pretty good.. might not have been good enough for it to have been a daily driver though... who knows.. eitherway Eric was just burdened with alot of problems and unfortunately it shyed him away from owning a syty at the moment.
George Blake said:
I think it was really just bad luck, when morgan sold it the truck was running pretty good.. might not have been good enough for it to have been a daily driver though... who knows.. eitherway Eric was just burdened with alot of problems and unfortunately it shyed him away from owning a syty at the moment.