The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

92TY1635

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Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

A friend who works at a local paint shop told me to use a fine sandpaper on the cladding. Using course will ruff the plastic and roll it up and really fubar it. Blocking is fine, takes a little longer. If you have a DA I would DA (w/400 or finer) and feather the scratches out then prime. Spray, block, spray, then final sand for paint. Products and techniques have come along way and they have some really good sealers on the market though I don't know how and when they can be used.
 

ShuggsRR

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Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

Whats do you guys mean when you say block it?

And is a DA an air sander?
 

myclone

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ShuggsRR said:
Whats the point of sand, primer, sand primer? big thick base makes it harder to chip? or keeps the shine in later down the road?

Each time you prime then sand until the final coat of primer you end up removing most of it so you really dont have a "thick base" under the paint just a smooth surface. Each coat of primer fills in minor imperfections and when you block sand it you remove the primer, for the most part, everywhere but the low spots/imperfections. This gives the paint a nice flat surface to be applied which makes for a nice smooth finish (assuming the paint is applied correctly).

The final coat of primer that you wet sand is what the paint adheres to so thats why you use a finer grit paper (600 grit) and water as a lubricant while youre sanding. It smooths the surface to a point but still gives the surface a microscopic "tooth" for the paint to grab on to. If you use too fine of a grit then the paint cant adhere to the primer (think how good paint peels off of glass) and the first time you washed the area with high pressure water like a car wash the paint would blow right off (you'd be mad). If you used a more course grit paper then you would leave scratches that while not easily visible to the naked eye would stand out like a sore thumb once paint was applied and the light was reflected off of them unevenly.

All this blocking/priming seems like a lot of work (it is actually) but youll hear time and time again that paint work is 99% preparation and 1% paint application and there was never a more true statement. Put cheap paint on a first class prep job and it will like like a show car until the cheap paint is dead from UV but put the most expensive paint you can buy on a crappy prep job and it will look crappy but last a long time.

ShuggsRR said:
Whats do you guys mean when you say block it?

The sandpaper is wrapped around something to keep it flat. Eons ago it was a "block" of wood before foam blocks became the norm...hence the term "block sanding" or just "blocking" for short. If you use your bare hand to try to sand something flat youll end up with a wavey surface since your fingers concentrate the pressure on the paper and there is less pressure on the paper between your fingers.

The first time you sand the cladding you can use your bare hand since all youre doing is lightly sanding to scuff the surface to give the primer something to stick to and subsequent coats of primer and block sanding will smooth the surface. Up to a point the more you prime and block sand the the more level/smooth the surface that the paint is applied to will be.

And is a DA an air sander?

Yes.

BTW, are you doing the body work/sanding? Reason I ask is that by the above questions Im guessing you have never done body work before and if thats the case dont touch the cladding with a DA. Do it all by hand or youll just make a ton more work for yourself or whoever has to do the finish work on the cladding before painting. Hand sanding takes a LOT of effort to goof something up but a DA will ruin plastic parts in a matter of minutes (or less) if handled by inexperienced hands. If you have a body man/painter standing there coaching you over your shoulder thats different othewise leave the DA on the work bench. :2cents:
 
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ShuggsRR

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Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

Wow thanks so much for your help.

Yes Im doing it all myself. no I have never touched paint before besides in my shop on the walls. lol

Is there a recommended primer I should use? Especially on the cladding.
 

ShuggsRR

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Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

myclone said:
The first time you sand the cladding you can use your bare hand since all youre doing is lightly sanding to scuff the surface to give the primer something to stick to and subsequent coats of primer and block sanding will smooth the surface. Up to a point the more you prime and block sand the the more level/smooth the surface that the paint is applied to will be.

Starting on the cladding today. YEAH!!! I cant wait itll se SOO Much fun!!

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AUSyTyIN

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Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

Cladding garage sale anyone? :lol:

Looks like a fun project, keep us posted :tup:
 

ShuggsRR

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MHST Guy said:
Cladding garage sale anyone? :lol:

Wait till i pull the cladding off my parts typhoon hehe

MHST Guy said:
Looks like a fun project, keep us posted :tup:

Fun? What do you mean fun?
Fun like poison ivy? Fun like a kick in the nuts? Fun like like a nail gun to the head? Fun like changing a Ty motor mount? Fun like drinking draino?

Im confused on what you mean by fun... :roll:

:rotf: :rotf:
 

AUSyTyIN

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Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

ShuggsRR said:
Wait till i pull the cladding off my parts typhoon hehe



Fun? What do you mean fun?
Fun like poison ivy? Fun like a kick in the nuts? Fun like like a nail gun to the head? Fun like changing a Ty motor mount? Fun like drinking draino?

Im confused on what you mean by fun... :roll:

:rotf: :rotf:

Fun like having teeth pulled
 

myclone

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Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

ShuggsRR said:
I cant wait itll se SOO Much fun!!

Spoken like a true crack head or someone who's never done any body work :rotf: . Do body work for a living then lemme know if you still think wearing out sand paper and slinging mud (mud=bondo/filler) is still fun ;) .

Seriously though, some ppl dont mind it and do actually enjoy it...you may end up being one of those ppl and you can make some decent cash on the side doing paint and body work. Just remember that you very seldom see retired painters/body men. Ive only seen one and he was accompanied by his portable oxygen tank everywhere he went from breathing fumes and dust all those years. :2cents:
 

ShuggsRR

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Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

Yeah its terrible. I bought some respirators today... Tired of green snot. Wasnt feeling so great after sanding without one...

I hate doing this and was being very sarcastic about it being fun. ACK! I am about to just break down and bring it to a shop to have them finish it cause it SUCKS!
 

jjorgensen52

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Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

ShuggsRR said:
Yeah its terrible. I bought some respirators today... Tired of green snot. Wasnt feeling so great after sanding without one...

I hate doing this and was being very sarcastic about it being fun. ACK! I am about to just break down and bring it to a shop to have them finish it cause it SUCKS!
Good to know, I'm about to embark on this adventure with the GT :lol:
 

ShuggsRR

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yeah right when you think you are just about done... you fine tons more work to do... one ding to a novice likeme could be HOURS... better to pay someone then to spend HOURS sanding. Im tired... my snot is green... im dirty... gotta shower AGAIN cause Imcovered with dust... my garage is covered with dust... EVERYTHING is covered in dust... this sucks but when its done... it will be so worth it cause when its done I can say, "I did that!"
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

ShuggsRR said:
yeah right when you think you are just about done... you fine tons more work to do... one ding to a novice likeme could be HOURS... better to pay someone then to spend HOURS sanding. Im tired... my snot is green... im dirty... gotta shower AGAIN cause Imcovered with dust... my garage is covered with dust... EVERYTHING is covered in dust... this sucks but when its done... it will be so worth it cause when its done I can say, "I did that!"
Oh don't worry, I am pretty sure I know what I'm getting into with the sanding (done a lot of glass work on small boats... lots of dust and sanding there :lol: ). It shouldn't be terrible since most of the truck is practically in primer already because the paint is baked off :rotf:
 

ShuggsRR

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hehe... You wont have forest green metalic green snot either! lol
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: The Typhoon is going in for a complete paint job. Any tips?

ShuggsRR said:
hehe... You wont have forest green metalic green snot either! lol
nope, black instead. I'll just get a respirator in the first place ;)
 
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